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          ALRIGHT, SO I'M 
          [A. CALL TO ORDER]
GONNA GO AHEAD AND CALL US TO ORDER THE REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE AT 3 0 1. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING ON. 
          UH, KEVIN KNOW EVERYBODY'S KIND OF WINDING DOWN FOR THE HOLIDAYS, BUT APPRECIATE YOU SQUEEZING IN ONE MORE MEETING. 
          'CAUSE I THINK THIS MOBILITY STUDY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE PORT, VERY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE IT FORWARD. 
          ANGIE, COULD I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? YES, SIR. 
          COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN JEFF PATTERSON HERE. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER WILLIE GONZALEZ. 
          NOT HERE AT THE, YEAH, WILLIE HAD A CONFLICT. 
          I THINK HE WAS COMMITTEE MEMBER. 
          RICHARD MOORE HERE. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER BOB BROWN HERE. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER SHARON LEWIS. 
          COMMITTEE MEMBER. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK SHE'S HERE AT THE MOMENT. 
          WE ALSO HAVE AN INTENDED COUNCIL MEMBER. 
           AND . 
          THERE YOU GO. 
          THANK YOU GUYS. 
          AND SHEILA AND, AND SHEILA LOOKING RIGHT THROUGH. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          SO I DECLARE WE HAVE A QUORUM. 
          UH, ANY ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST? ANYBODY WISHES TO DECLARE HEARING NONE? I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO 
          [B. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC]
COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AND WE HAVE ONE FROM MR. TED RO ROKEY, I THINK IS HOW YOU SAY IT. 
          YEAH, I JUST RO RO IT. 
          HI TED. 
          ANYWAY, I WON'T, I WON'T BE TOO LONG. 
          I JUST WANTED TO UH, SAY I'M GLAD THAT THE Y'ALL'S COMMITTEE IS MEETING AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE, I UNDERSTAND THE AGENDA ITEM IS TO DO WORK ON THE, UH, MOBILITY STUDY. 
          BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S GONNA BE APPROPRIATE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LEAVE THIS WITH THE CHAIRMAN OF THAT AREA OVER THERE WHERE THE BATTLESHIP'S GONNA GO. 
          I BROUGHT SOME PHOTOS AND ANYBODY BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME COPIES AND SHOW YOU WHERE THE BATTLESHIP IS IN PIER 14, WHERE THIS IS A SCHEDULED AREA FOR IT TO GO. 
          THEN I'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE. 
          IT KIND OF SHOWS YOU THAT ALONGSIDE WITH THE SLIP 12 AND ALSO GOT ONE OF THE CONCEPTUAL APPEARANCE OF HOW IT'S GONNA BE. 
          THAT'S IN THE, THE BA REPORT. 
          THE BA REPORT TAKES OUT PEER 14. 
          I REALLY THINK YOU SHOULD LEAVE THAT OPTION OPEN TO LOOK AT PEER 14 LEAVING THAT THERE. 
          I DID TALK WITH ONE OF THE PERSONS THAT'S ABLE TO MEASURE AREAS AND TELL WHAT CAN FIT AND NOT FIT AND PUT YOUR, YOUR ADDITIONAL SHIP WHEN IT COMES TO FRUITION, WOULDN'T IT VERTICAL WITH THAT PEER, PEER 12. 
          YOU STILL GET IT IN THERE. 
          YOU CAN STILL HAVE PIER 14 THERE FROM THE ENTERTAINMENT AREA. 
          THEY HAVE TO TAKE OFF, I THINK 20, 26 FEET ON THE UH, EAST SIDE OF 14. 
          BUT I SEE THAT AS A GREAT VEHICLE FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HOTEL RESTAURANT DOWN AT THE END. 
          MAYBE A CHART HOUSE OVERLOOKING THE CHANNEL WITH THE DOLPHINS AND THE SHIP TRAFFIC. 
          I THINK IT'D BE REALLY BEAUTIFUL. 
          I THINK YOU OUGHT TO AT LEAST WHEN THEY DO DO, I KNOW VA HASN'T DONE THE COMPLETE FINAL PICTURES OF THAT, BUT I JUST THINK YOU SHOULD AT LEAST LOOK AT THAT OPTION OF MAYBE TRYING TO KEEP AND THAT PARKING YOU WON'T NEED. 
          BUT THAT WHOLE PIER COULD BE USED FOR BULKHEAD ALL THE WAY AROUND. 
          BE A REALLY BEAUTIFUL PIER TO USE AND STILL BRING YOUR ADDITIONAL SHIP IN AND PUT IT IN VERTICALLY WITH THE, WITH THE PIER AND NOT, NOT HAVE TO BRING THAT PIER OUT SO FAR FROM PIER PIER 12. 
          IT DOES, IT DOES TAKE SOME ENGINEERING TO BE ABLE TO DO IT, BUT I WILL LEAVE THESE WITH THE CHAIRMAN AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT IT. 
          THANK YOU FOR COMING, SHARING YOUR BOSS. 
          OKAY, SEE THE AREA HERE. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          THANK YOU SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND RIGHT ON TIME. 
          SO WITH THAT, NO MORE COMMENTS, SANDY, THAT YEP, THAT'S IT. 
          THAT WAS IT. 
          SO 
          [C.1 Discuss and Consider Mobility Study (RFP) with Bermello Ajamil]
WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE BUSINESS ITEM, WHICH IS DISCUSS AND CONSIDER MOBILITY STUDY WITH DA. 
          AND WE HAVE, WE HAD THAT. 
          WE HAVE AGAIN, LEWIS, ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAR ARE WE, ARE WE UNMUTED JOHN? OR, I HEAR YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, SO HEAR YOUR QUESTION. 
          OKAY, SO WITH THAT, AND I THINK YOU GUYS REMEMBER FROM OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS WHAT, A WEEK OR SO AGO? NOT THAT LONG AGO, BUT WE, WE HAD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SCOPE DOCUMENT THAT I THINK MR. FINKLEY AND BOB HAVE PUT SOME GOOD ENERGY INTO KIND OF DEVELOPING, UH, REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, REALLY TRYING TO DEFINE OUR MOBILITY STUDY AND WHAT WE WANT AND WHAT WE WANTED TO COVER. 
          WE HAD GOOD DISCUSSION IN THE LAST MEETING ABOUT THAT. 
          AND I THINK WE LEFT IT WITH, I THINK SHEILA, YOU MADE THE GOOD SUGGESTION THAT MAYBE WE OUGHT TO BRING AND COURSE WE'VE GOT DAVID, WHO IS, DAVID AND BOB PROBABLY HAVE MORE EXPERTISE THAN ANY OF US IN THIS ROOM AS FAR AS DOING THESE THINGS. 
          BUT ALSO BRING IN SOME ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, KIND OF AN OUTSIDE PERSPECTIVE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, IS THIS THE RIGHT SCOPE? IS THIS WHAT WE NEED TO 
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BE LOOKING AT? AND SO ROGER, I THINK YOU ARRANGED TO GET LEWIS TO AND LEWIS, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU FIND, YOU FOUND A GOOD PLACE TO PULL OFF TO THE ROAD ANYWAY THERE IN MONTANA. 
          UM, BUT WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS AND I GUESS YOU'VE GOT A PRESENTATION TO SHARE. 
          YEAH, AND I THINK IT WAS SOMEBODY ELSE,  AND YOU GOT, YOU GOT ANOTHER JUDGE. 
          TOM LOOKS LIKE TOM IS WITH YOU AS WELL. 
          I CAN DO SO WITH THAT I'M GONNA LET ROGER, YOU, YOU HAD ORGANIZE THIS WITH BA SO MAYBE LET YOU KICK THAT OFF. 
          I'LL JUST TURN IT OVER TO LEWIS. 
          YOU TURN IT OVER. 
          HE'S READY. 
          TURN IT OVER LEWIS. 
          HE WANTS TO GET ON SKI SLOPES ANYWAY. 
          ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT LEWIS, TAKE IT AWAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WELL, I HOPE THE NOISE IS NOT TOO BAD BACK HERE. 
          I'M A VERY NOISY PLACE, BUT I'M USING MY HEADPHONES, SO IF IT IS YOU LET ME KNOW AND I'LL MOVE, I'LL MOVE SOME PLACE WHERE, BUT AS IT TURNS OUT, I'M BEST INTENTIONS. 
          I TRY TO GET TO A PLACE THAT I, THAT I HAD ROOM TO DO THIS. 
          AND THE POWER HAS GONE OUT VERY, VERY BIG IN STORM. 
          HALF THE TOWN IS IN POWER, SO I'M IN THE, I'M IN THE ONE DINER IN TOWN, . 
          OH GOD. 
          SO I HOPE THE NOISE IS NOT TOO BAD, BUT I WANT TO SHARE THE, UH, PRESENTATION AND APPRECIATE THE, THE, THE, THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THIS AND GIVE YOU THE TIME ON AND HOPEFULLY WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          AND, UM, LOUIS, SOMEBODY ELSE IS ON ALSO. 
          YEAH, SOMEBODY FROM WOLF OR WOULD HEAR FROM THE BACKGROUND. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH, SORRY, I FORGOT TO, I ASKED WELL, WHO HAS, UH, BEEN DOING A LOT OF OUR TRAFFIC WORK FOR PRODUCED, UH, AND IN FACT WE JUST FINISHED THE EXACT EXACTLY SAME THING, THE OLD  HE JUST FINISHED IN BOSTON FOR THE PROOF FACILITIES IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND TOM, UH, WORKED WITH ME ON THAT AS WELL AS IN NEW AND THE PROJECT IN. 
          SO HE WELL VERSED ON THE, UH, FROM SUBJECT TODAY AND HE'S AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. 
          SO I ASKED HIM TO JOIN AND UH, HE WOULD SO GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO, UH, WE, SO THE, TO START OUT THAT IT IS NOT AN UNCOMMON THING THAT WHEN YOU DO A MASTER PLAN, THAT THE MOBILITY PLAN USUALLY COMES SIDE BY SIDE, USUALLY COME TOGETHER AND SO FORTH. 
          SO GIVES A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO BRING THAT TWO TOGETHER AND RESOLVE ISSUES. 
          IT'S ALSO CLEAR THAT ONE OF THE CONCERNS WITH ALL THE COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT CONCERNS. 
          OVERALL GREAT, POSITIVE COMMENTS WILL RECEIVE, BUT ALWAYS THE, THE TRAFFIC AND THAT IS PRETTY COMMON THAT EVERY ONE OF THESE CONCERN, VERY, VERY, UM, SO THERE IS A UNIQUE, UH, FACTOR OF THAT CRUISE IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING A HOTEL ALL OR DOING AN OFFICE BUILDING THE FACTORY AND INDUSTRY IN THAT THE CRUISE INDUSTRY OPERATES IN A VERY INTENSE PERIOD FOR A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. 
          SO USUALLY YOUR PEAK HOURS ARE LIKE TWO HOURS IN THE MORNING AND AN HOUR AND A HALF IN THE AFTERNOON, AND THEN THE REST OF THE DAY YOU COULD SHOOT IT GUN DOWN THE STREETS AND THERE'S NOBODY, THERE'S NO CARS. 
          AND ALSO SINCE IT OPERATES ONLY THREE OR FOUR DAYS A WEEK, BY AND LARGE IT IS NOT A GREAT, UH, UH, IT IT IS, IT IS VISIBLY AN IMPACT OF SNOW WHALES THAT ARE AROUND. 
          BUT AT THE, AT THE END, IN MOST PORTS, IF YOU'RE A QUARTER OF A MILE AWAY FROM THE PORT, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THERE'S A CRUISE TRAFFIC THERE. 
          SO I, I WANTED TO START OUT WITH THIS, BUT IT IS A HUGE CONCERN, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ADD A NEW, A NEW NEW SHIP. 
          SO DOING THIS AND FINDING REALLY GOOD SOLUTIONS, WHICH CAN BE FOUND IN GALVESTON BECAUSE IN THE WAY THAT THE STREET STRUCTURE IN THIS AND THE, AND THE DESTINATION IS, IS, IS, IS A VERY THING TO DO. 
          SO, UM, LET ME SEE. 
          SWITCH HERE. 
          SO TYPICALLY, UM, THE BIGGEST THING IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS THAT WE IDENTIFY FROM THE START ALL THE CONCERNS 'CAUSE IT, IT, IT REALLY FOCUS ON THAT SERIES OF POINTS THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          AND IN THE CASE OF GALVESTON IS HOW DO WE DISPERSE THE TRAFFIC, ESPECIALLY IN THE MORNINGS, UM, AS PEOPLE ARE LEAVING, NOT AFFECTING THE NEARBY NEGATIVE, WE MAKE IT BETTER, BUT ALSO WE'RE PART OF THE CONSERVATIVE. 
          HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE TO COME TO THE DOWNTOWN AND HOW DO THE PASSENGERS TALK ABOUT EACH OTHER WHEN THEY STEP FORTH? SO IN ONE WAY, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE TRAFFIC AND ANOTHER WAY WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, MANAGE THE TRAFFIC BETTER. 
          SO THIS KIND OF STUDY WOULD GO VERY WELL ABOUT, UM, I THINK THE SECOND THING IS WHEN RESEARCH STUDY THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS THAT THE CONCERN BE DOCUMENTED VERY EARLY ON BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY IT'S TOO MUCH TRAFFIC AND THEY REALLY, WHEN YOU GO INTO IT, MAYBE IT'S CAUSED BY SOMETHING ELSE AND SO FORTH. 
          SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE THAT, THAT THAT STUDY AND THAT THE VERY SPECIFIC ISSUE AND EVERYBODY CAN SAY TOO MUCH TRAFFIC, TOO MUCH WATER OR SPECIFIC THE ISSUES. 
          'CAUSE IN THE CASE OF THE OFFICE, AND WE CAN GET PEOPLE OUT OF THE TERMINAL, 
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OUT TOWARDS TO THE MAINLAND, UH, WITHOUT, THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE MASTERMIND WITHOUT, WITHOUT COMING INTO THE CITY. 
          BUT, UH, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, UM, THIS WILL INFORM DATA COLLECTION PLACES AND ANALYSIS THAT BE DOING. 
          AND IT, IN THIS CASE, THERE IS NO MANUAL FOR GRAPHICS. 
          YOU HAVE UNDERSTAND THAT REALLY WELL. 
          COUNTERS, YOU GO TO AN OFFICE BUILDING AN INDUSTRY, YOU GO TO THE IP MANUAL AND THEY TELL YOU HOW MUCH TRAFFIC THAT GENERATES. 
          IT DOESN'T EXIST WITH PEOPLE. 
          UM, AND THEN WE GET TO THE ISSUE OF COMMUNICATION WITH THE KEY STAKEHOLDERS AT THE BEGINNING SAID IN THE INDUSTRY, ALL THE ISSUES, UH, AND NOT TO END UP THE REPORT AND PEOPLE SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T COVER THIS. 
          IT DOESN'T, I THINK WE CAN, I THINK THESE CAN BE ISSUES THAT CAN BE THAT THIS STUDY CAN IDENTIFY AND MANAGE TRAFFIC BETTER AND MAYBE YOU COULD COME IN WITH SOME VERY CLEVER IDEAS IN THAT IN OTHER PLACES WHERE YOU COMING UP IN WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE ARRIVAL AND DEPARTURE PATTERNS A LITTLE BETTER. 
          BUT TYPICALLY JUST LET THE CASE LINE STAND. 
          SO THE MOBILITY STUDY HAS BEEN WRITTEN BY, BY THE, BY THE COMMITTEE AND, AND FOLKS IN THE CITY ARE PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU START OUT WITH ESTABLISHING A CLAUSE, YOU KNOW, ANALYSIS, ENGAGEMENT OF THE ESTATE. 
          THEN, THEN THERE IS AN AN ASPECT ABOUT PARKING ANALYSIS, WHICH I GO BACK AND TALK. 
          THEN YOU GET INTO THE ISSUE OF TRAFFIC GENERATION AND THEN YOU, YOU'VE GOT THE MODELS AND ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU TALK ABOUT. 
          HOW WOULD TRAFFIC, UH, AND LOOK AT WHAT OTHER HAVE DONE AND THEN COME UP WITH A CONCEPT OF WHAT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT. 
          I PUT THOSE BIG ARROWS THERE, WHICH TO ME ARE CRITICAL STEPS IN PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT OR A STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT. 
          AND THAT'S TO BE DEFINED,  DEFINED WHAT THAT IS, UM, AT THE BEGINNING WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO DEFINE THE ANSWERS IN THE MIDDLE, WHEN THE ALTERNATIVES ARE BEING DEVELOPED. 
          AND THEN AT THE END WHEN THE SOLUTIONS ARE BEING PRESENTED, THERE MIGHT BE , BUT THAT SHOULD BE CLARIFIED, YOU KNOW, THE SCOPE THAT THAT WILL OCCUR SO THAT EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE THAT HEY, THEIR THOUGHTS ARE GONNA BE FURTHER. 
          THE TWO AREAS THAT ARE DIFFERENT IN YOUR SCOPE AND WHETHER YOU INTENDED IT TO BE THAT WAY, THAT OTHER TRACK, THAT OTHER MOBILITY STUDY IS, IT INCLUDES A PARKING MOUNTAIN MORE THAN JUST THE PARKING ANALYSIS, THE PORT. 
          BUT THE PORT IS PRETTY SIMPLE BECAUSE IT'S JUST A MATTER OF UNDERSTANDING THE TRAFFIC. 
          WHAT, HOW MANY PASSENGERS ARE GONNA BE STAYING IN A WEEK. 
          PARKING, THE SIZE OF PARKING GARAGE ARE SET, BUT, BUT IT'S ALSO INCLUDES PARKING IN THE AREA, THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU INTENDED THAT TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU OPEN THE PANDORA BOX OF PARKING WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, IT IT BECOMES A, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ANALYSIS WHICH WILL PROBABLY ADD CRASH TO IT. 
          UH, AND THEN WE HAVE THE, THE TRIAL STUDY, WHICH IS, THAT ONE'S PRETTY SIMPLE AND THAT ONE'S BEEN TRIED IN PLACES IT USUALLY BOILS DOWN AT VERY PRO, VERY FUNCTIONAL WHEN YOU GET TO THE ISSUE, OKAY, HOW DO WE PAY FOR THE TROLLEY SERVICE BEING AROUND? AND THAT'S USUALLY WHAT YOU END UP WITH THIS. 
          IT'S NOT  WHETHER THEY CAN DO IT OR NOT. 
          IT'S A FUNCTION OF HOW DO YOU PAY FOR THAT? AND IN COURTS, COURTS, YOU KNOW, THEY ASKED CONTRIBUTE, SOMEONE COURTS HAVE CONTRIBUTED WITH ANOTHER PLACE THAT CITIZENS FOR A OR UM, DOWNTOWN AREA HAVE CONTRIBUTED. 
          SO THAT THAT'S GONNA BE THE CASE FOR THIS COLLEGE STUFF. 
          SO WE'RE NOT GOING INTO A LOT OF THE DETAILS THAT YOU ALL GONE WHEN WE REVIEWED IT IS ON THE KICKOFF. 
          UM, THE KEY IS START OUT WITH NOT ONLY WHAT THE ISSUE, BUT HOW ARE YOU GONNA MAKE YOUR SUCCESS? BECAUSE IF NOT WE END UP, YOU KNOW, JUST CHASING, IS IT BY LEVEL SERVICE, WHICH IS A TRADITIONAL TRAFFIC MODEL? IS IT BY TAKING TRAFFIC OFF THE STREETS ALTOGETHER? THAT MIGHT BE, THAT MIGHT SAY, I, I DON'T WANT TRAFFIC IN THIS PARTICULAR STREET, I WANT TRAFFIC DIRECTLY TO OTHER STREETS. 
          SO HAVING THAT DISCUSSION UP FRONT WILL BE A CRITICAL PART SO THAT THEN ALL OF THOSE GEARED UP TO I DON'T ACHIEVE THAT SUCCESS. 
          UM, UH, AND AND IN TERMS, SO THIS ONE AREA THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT, THAT, THAT BE INCLUDED IN THIS GROUP I JUST TALKED ABOUT STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT THAT SHOULD BE REALLY DEFINED AND AT LEAST THREE SETS OF ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS. 
          AND IT MIGHT BE ONE, ONE IT MIGHT BE GROUPS AND SO FORTH. 
          YOU, THERE'S, IT'S HOW BEST YOU CAN ENGAGE PEOPLE. 
          UM, THE TRAFFIC GENERATION, LIKE I SAID, YOU USUALLY DO NOT FIND TRAFFIC GENERATION FOR FIRST COMPANY. 
          IT DOESN'T EXIST IN ANY MANNER WHATSOEVER. 
          SO A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL GO AND PUT TRAFFIC COUNTER AND FORTH AND THEN THAT'S HOW YOU . 
          I, THAT'S HOW WE DO IT. 
          THE THING IS, IT GOT TO BE EVERY PERSON IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT 
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SOMEWHERE THE LENGTH OF THE DEBRIS VARIES AND SO FORTH. 
          SO WE'RE GOTTA DO IT IN A MAGIC WAY. 
          YOU GET, YOU TAKE ONE NEXT AND THEN FIND YOUR OWN , BUT AT THE END WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS BE ABLE TO SEGREGATE THE TRAFFIC. 
          SO, SO YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PRIVATE VEHICLE, RIGHT? SHARE TAXI, SHUTTLE BOXES, TRANSFER A LOT OF PROVISIONS. 
          SO THAT'S THE KIND OF STUDY THAT WE JUST FINISHED IN BOSTON WHERE REALLY THROUGH, UM, AND THEN TON PARKING WAS ALREADY, UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD CASE STUDIES AND UH, AND I WOULD LOOK FOR A CASE STUDY IN NINETIES. 
          URBAN, THE COURT SAID THE URBAN AREA BEING SURROUNDED BY THE CITY, SO FORTH. 
          THE ONES THAT COME TO MIND, THAT OF MY OPINION, BRAZIL, DIFFERENT ROLES, TAMPA, THESE ARE PROBABLY, WE WORKED IN SEATTLE. 
          IT COULD BE ANY MORE INTENSE USE OF THE WATER THAT SEATTLE, UH, THE MOST SAN PEDRO OR ANGELES AREA COULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO. 
          SO THERE WAS A GOOD COUPLE THAT WE COULD HAVE TO, IT'S IMPORTANT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WORKS AND WHAT WORKS FOR THE OTHER PLACES. 
          AND SO YOU CAN, BUT THERE IS ROOM FOR SOME CREATIVE SOLUTIONS. 
          UM, SO FOR US, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE SCOPE, YOU KNOW, MAKES IN MY GUT SENSE, WE, WE WOULD MAKE SOME COMMENTS FROM THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE SENT. 
          WE GLAD YOU SHARE IS, IS HOW TO MEASURE SUCCESS. 
          UM, THE TRAFFIC PART IS PRETTY ANALYSIS. 
          IT'S PRETTY STANDARD, BUT IT'S REALLY KNOWING THAT LIKE THERE WAS ONE SEGMENT IN THE SCOPE THAT TALKED ABOUT MONITORING CURBSIDE OPERATIONS AND CURBSIDE PERFORMANCE, WHICH PROBABLY COMPLICATE THE STUDY A LOT BECAUSE ONE CASE THEY DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH CURB, YOU HAVE A LOT OF CURB, LIKE THERE YOU HAD A VERY SMALL CURBSIDE AND POSSIBLY HAVE TO WAIT TO LONG. 
          I WOULD SAY, YEAH, THEY CAN DO THAT, BUT IN THIS CASE, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING YOU DON'T NEED. 
          YOU JUST NEED THE TRAFFIC IN AND OUT ALL THE SITES AND THEN THAT, THAT WORKS AND THAT WOULD SAVE MONEY AND SO FORTH. 
          AND THEN THE PARKING, UM, BECAUSE IT GOES BEYOND JUST PORT GENERATED PARKING AS COMMERCIAL ON PORT PARKING IS BEING INCLUDED. 
          AND THERE'S EVEN MENTION ABOUT PAYING FOR WHICH YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO DO THIS, THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THAT'S A THIRD A THIRD RAIL IN A LOT OF COMMUNITIES. 
          SO, AND YOU DID A STUDY IN BAR HARBOR, MAINE WHERE IT IS FREE PARKING AND THE WHOLE IDEA WAS TO MOVE ON ON STREET PARKING AND THAT THAT TOOK THE, THAT TOOK THE PROJECT IN A WHOLE DIFFERENT DIRECTION. 
          IT DIDN'T, IT DIDN'T RESOLVE A LOT OF ISSUES. 
          SO, UM, SO IT'S KEEP IT MANAGEABLE. 
          UH, I WOULD SAY THAT IT CAN GO WITH THE PACE THAT YOU NEED, JUST, YOU KNOW, GO IN THERE TO BE ABLE TO EQUIP PUTTING THE ANALYSIS, BUT REALLY HAVE THE INPUT BECAUSE I'M CONVINCED GALSTON HAS GREAT SOLUTIONS AVAILABLE. 
          YOU'RE IN MUCH BETTER POSITION THAN ANY OTHER PORT THAT I KNOW, LIKE MIAMI'S KIND OF APP ACCOUNT. 
          SO EVERYBODY IS FOCUSED IN, IN LOS ANGELES, IT'S THE SAME THING IN BOSTON WORK CITY. 
          AND THEN WE FOUND SOME THAT, THAT WORK FOR THOSE . 
          UM, THE CRAWL ANALYSIS, AGAIN, IT'S GONNA BE, THE ISSUE IS GONNA BE HOW IT PAY FOR THE CRAWL. 
          I THINK WE CAN GENERATE A A, A GOOD, YOU CAN GENERATE A, A A THE END FOR THAT. 
          UM, AND UH, SO THEN WHATEVER THE BUDGET THAT I SAW IT SOMEWHERE, THOSE P 300 THOUSANDS, I THINK IF YOU ADD A LOT OF THE STUFF IN THERE THAT BARKING WITH ACROSS , YOU MIGHT MIGHT EXCEED YOUR BUDGET AND YOU MIGHT THEN WANT YOU, YOU WANT TO TIE. 
          SO THAT WAS MY COMMENTS. 
          I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT TIME. 
          WE CAN GET IT DONE FAIRLY QUICK AND, AND STRAIGHTFORWARD. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, NO, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING HIGHER TO TALK ABOUT THE METHODOLOGY BE THE, THE MODEL THAT IS DONE IN TRAFFIC WITH THE STREET SYSTEM. 
          BUT THAT'S WHY I ANYBODY QUESTION. 
          UM, I I HOPE THAT IT'S HELPFUL IN YOUR DELIBERATIONS IN DOING THIS. 
          UM, SO, UH, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO COMMENT. 
          ALRIGHT, LIZ, THANK SO MUCH. 
          NO, THAT WAS GOOD. 
          VERY, NO, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GIVING US THAT INPUT. 
          I THINK ONE, MAYBE DO YOU HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME FOR QUESTIONS OR WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR, I DON'T WANT TO HOLD YOU FROM A, A DINNER DATE OR A SKI SKI SLOPE. 
          SAY THAT AGAIN? I SAID DO YOU HAVE A FEW? DO YOU HAVE A FEW MINUTES? THERE'S A BIG WIND STORM HERE. 
          ADAM, DO YOU HAVE A FEW MINUTES FOR QUESTIONS? OF COURSE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I GUESS ONE FOR ME, AND WE WILL OPEN IT UP HERE. 
          I MEAN, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION AT THIS GROUP. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF MOBILITY VERSUS A TRAFFIC STUDY. 
          SO MAYBE GIVE US, GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF, YOU KNOW, MOBILITY STUDY 1 0 1 . 
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SO IT IT IS A MOBILITY STUDY BECAUSE YOU ARE STUDYING TRIALS HERE FOR THAT PART OF THIS STUDY. 
          SO THAT, SO YES. 
          SO MAYBE WE SHOULD BE USING THAT, BUT IN A WAY THAT IT GRAPHIC IS MODEL FOR PARTS OF THE, OF THE MOBILITY AS YOU HAVE IT. 
          BUT IT, THIS STUDY SHOULD INCLUDE HOW DO WE PEDESTRIANIZE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN WHICH WE PUT IT INTO THE MASTER CLOUD, GET PEOPLE TO CONNECT BACK AND FORTH, BUT SHOULD IMPROVE. 
          UM, AND, UH, AND SO, AND THEN THE TRIAL ISSUE WILL BE THE, OR ANY OTHER MOTOR TRAIN TAKE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT AT THE END, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CRUISE, IT'S A VERY, YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE ARRIVING THE CAR COMING LONG DISTANCES, AREAS IS THEIR METHOD OF MOBILITY IS GONNA BE WELL DEFINED  BY THEM, NOT BY US. 
          YES. 
          AND I GUESS, IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT A TRAFFIC STUDY IS KIND OF PART OF A MOBILITY STUDY? TOTALLY. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S FURTHER THE CORNER. 
          I, I HAD A QUICK CUT AND IT WAS IN THOSE SAME RANGE. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, THE, THE DEFINITION OF THE WORDS MOBILITY AND TRAFFIC. 
          HOW DO Y'ALL SEE, I MEAN, WHAT I, I UNDERSTAND THAT TRAFFIC'S PART OF MOBILITY, BUT HOW DO Y'ALL AS A COMPANY, WHO DOES THIS DEFINE WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY? I CAN ANSWER THAT. 
          GIVE YOU THE SECOND. 
          YEAH, GO AHEAD. 
          UH, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THEY'RE USED TO, THEY'RE SYNONYMOUS. 
          I I SEE MOBILITY BEING MORE INCLUDED, MORE INCLUSIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY ABOUT MOVING PEOPLE AND GOODS, UH, FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER. 
          SO IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT WITHIN THAT CONTEXT, THEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MOBILITY, INCLUDING TRAFFIC, BUT INCLUDING PEDESTRIANS, UH, TROLLEYS, YOU KNOW, UH, BUSES, BICYCLES, YOU KNOW, BEING MORE ENCOMPASSING. 
          BUT REALLY, UM, WITHIN THE PROFESSION, MOBILITY IS TYPICALLY IN A MORE INCLUSIVE CONTEXT THAN JUST TRAFFIC. 
          OKAY, THANK YOU, RICHARD. 
          QUESTION I, I'D LIKE TO SPEND, UH, SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, PEDESTRIAN, UH, ASPECTS OF A MOBILITY STUDY. 
          AND I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK, I DON'T THINK OF IT SO MUCH AS A PROBLEM, BUT I CAN'T, I THINK WE HAVE A GREAT, GREAT OPPORTUNITY. 
          WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING ON THE ORDER OF 4 MILLION TOURISTS A YEAR COMING HERE AS IF YOU COUNT 'EM COMING AND YOU COUNT 'EM GOING. 
          BUT THAT'S STILL A LOT OF PEOPLE CONCENTRATING IN THIS AREA. 
          WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS HOW CAN WE, UH, HOLD THOSE PEOPLE IN THIS AREA OF GALVESTON SO THEY CAN, I DON'T MEAN ALL OF 'EM, OBVIOUSLY, BUT THE ONES THAT WOULD DESIRE, HOW DO WE MAKE IT MORE APPEALING TO THEM TO STOP, EAT LUNCH AT ONE OF THE RESTAURANTS, SHOP AT ONE OF OUR MANY SHOPPING AREAS IMMEDIATELY ACCESSIBLE FROM THE PORT, AND HOW DO WE MAKE IT, UH, SAFE AND CONVENIENT FOR THEM TO DO THAT? THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'M MOST INTERESTED IN. 
          SO THAT, THAT ONE WILL DEFINITELY GO INTO MORE THAN MOBILITY. 
          IT GOES MORE INTO, UH, UH, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND SO FORTH. 
          SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL TRY TO ADDRESS IT, HOW WE HANDLE IT, HOW WE ENVISION AND THE MASTER PLAN. 
          THE FIRST THING WE WANTED TO HAVE AND IS INCLUDED IS A, A WALKABLE WATERFRONT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN, CAN COME UP TO THE WATERFRONT. 
          AND THEN, AND WE HAVE A SLIDE THAT WE PREPARED SINCE WE WENT THERE, WHICH SHOWS ALL THE DIFFERENT PATHS FOR PEDESTRIANS TO BE ABLE TO, THE SECOND PART IS TO, IF YOU CREATE THIS PEDESTRIAN LAWS BY THEMSELVES, IT'S NOT GONNA BE THAT INTERESTING. 
          UH, SO THE WATERFRONT ENVISION THAT WE, WE HAVE ELEMENTS THAT WE PUT THERE, WHICH, FOR EXAMPLE, THE BATTLESHIP COULD BE ONE, SOME COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT COULD BE OTHERS. 
          SO THE, THE BEST OF THESE PEDESTRIAN ENGAGEMENTS IS ALWAYS THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE GRANDDADDIES, THE EMBAR IN SAN FRANCISCO, AND THEIR, THEIR MODEL IS LISTEN, EVERY 500 FEET ALONG THAT WALKWAY, YOU HAVE SOMETHING, A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT THAN YOU'RE GONNA CREATE. 
          AND THE CAMP REPEAT. 
          SO ONE END, YOU GOT FISHING FLOOR FROM THE OTHER END, YOU'VE GOT THE P IN BETWEEN, YOU'VE GOT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT OTHER ACTIVITY. 
          UM, AND THAT ATTRACTS PEOPLE. 
          SO PART OF IT COMES, CREATING AN INTERESTING WATERFRONT MAKES ME THINK THE MASTER PLANNING INCLUDES THAT, BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AND TO GET IT, YOU KNOW, TO, TO A LEVEL THAT, THAT YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE AND THAT THAT REPRESENTS WHAT YOU WANT. 
          NOW THE 
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SECOND PART IS HOW TO MANAGE A CRUISE CUSTOMER. 
          , TWO THINGS ON THERE. 
          AS THE VOLUME BUILT UP, THE CRUISE CUSTOMERS TEND TO STAY LONG THAT THIS WAS A COMPLAINT THAT EXISTED IN EVERY OTHER CRUISE PORT, PARTICULARLY IN MIAMI FOR YEARS WHERE I'M AT BEFORE THEY COME AND THEY DON'T STAY AND THEY LEAVE. 
          THERE'S NO PRE AND POST. 
          SO A LOT OF PLANE SPLIT WITH THE VISITORS BUREAU AND THAT HOTEL AIR TO START FREE AND POST, UM, UH, PERIODS, THE CRUISE LINE STARTED COOPERATING AND SELLING THAT AS PART OF THE PACKAGE. 
          UM, WHAT CAN THE PORT DO ON THAT? WELL, IF, IF, IF WE'RE ABLE TO MARKET THE GALVESTON AS THAT THERE IS A PLACE TO STAY BEFORE AND AFTER, WHICH YOU DEFINITELY CAN. 
          UM, THEN IT'S A FUNCTION OF TANDEM WORK, COME UP WITH SOME ATTRACTIVE VEHICLES TO BE ABLE TO, BESIDES THE SHOW. 
          SO I, I'M JUST GONNA TELL YOU, I'M JUST GONNA TALK OUT LOUD BECAUSE WE LIKE TO THINK OF DIFFERENT AND CREATIVE IDEAS. 
          WHAT IF YOU, UH, AND NOBODY'S TRIED ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          WHAT IF YOU MANIPULATE SOME AMOUNT YOUR PRICING ON YOUR PARKING TO, TO SUPPORT THAT, HEY, IF YOU STAY A LITTLE BIT LONGER INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, LEAVING A CERTAIN TIME, LEAVING ANOTHER TIME, MAYBE THERE'S A, THERE'S SOME DISCOUNT IN THAT. 
          SO THERE, THERE COULD BE SOME PLAYS HERE THAT NEED TO DO INTERNALLY, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A CREATIVE TYPE OF THING THAT, UH, WOULD, AMONG ALL THEM, AMONG EVERY COMPANY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          BUT SO IT, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME. 
          THE DESTINATION HAS TO DEVELOP AND THE PORT HAS TO DEVELOP THE DESTINATION DEVELOP. 
          SO NOW, 16 YEARS LATER, THE NUMBER ONE BUYER OF HOTEL ROOMS IN MIAMI IS, IS THE CRUISE. 
          SO DESPITE YOU HEARING ALL THE VISITORS THAT GO IN MIAMI, THE HOTEL SALES NUMBER ONE ARE CRUISE INDUSTRY FROM PRE AND POSTS. 
          AND A LOT OF THEM, IT'S PEOPLE THAT JUST WANNA STAY THERE, THERE, OR THAT THEY COME THE NIGHT BEFORE BECAUSE THEY WANNA BE READY FOR THE, SO I THINK IT, THE GREAT THING IS THE OPPORTUNITY IS THERE AND AS, AS CREATIVE AS AS THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO BE. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, DO YOU LIKE, THAT'S WHAT WE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE INSERT IN THE MASTER PLAN IS, WELL, YOU TAKE ON THE CITY BLOCKS, WHICH IS THE PORTAL AND MAKE IT INTO A PARK THAT PROVIDES THAT CONNECTIVITY BACK TO THE BRAND. 
          SO JUST A, A LOT MORE THAT COULD BE DONE THERE, BUT IT'S GOTTA BE ON BOTH, YOU KNOW, BOTH, BOTH SIDES. 
          THE ATTRACTIONS NEED TO IMPROVE AND THE PORTS WE NEED TO IMPROVE A LITTLE BY LITTLE YOU'LL GET THERE. 
          SO, SO LOUIS, I WANNA FOLLOW UP ON, ON THAT. 
          UM, BUT BE, BECAUSE I, I THINK WE'VE GOT INTERNALLY A PRETTY GOOD VISION WITH Y'ALL'S WORK AND THE WORK DONE BY STOSS ON WHAT THE POTENTIAL OF THE WATERFRONT IS. 
          UH, THE, BUT, BUT I PERSONALLY THINK ABOUT THIS MOBILITY STUDY AND, AND OUR OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES, I THINK OF THE DOWNTOWN GALVESTON AREA AND THE PORT AS A SINGLE UNIFIED DESTINATION FOR FOLKS. 
          SO IS THERE A, IS ARE THERE EXAMPLES, FOR INSTANCE OF, UH, PLACES WHERE PEOPLE CAN BRING, CAN COME IN AND IF THE, UH, IF THE SHIP IS NOT SET UP TO TAKE THEIR BAGGAGE, UH, IMMEDIATELY, OR THEIR EXAMPLES WHERE THEY, I GUESS YOU WAREHOUSE IT OR YOU CAN LEAVE IT SOMEPLACE ELSE, AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND, AND, UH, SO THAT THEY COULD VISIT AROUND, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF HOURS ON EITHER SIDE OF, OF ARRIVAL, UH, TO THE SHIP AND ARRIVAL WHEN THE SHIP COMES BACK. 
          UH, THE OTHER, THE OTHER THING IS THE, UH, THE WAY FINDING TO GET PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO GET FROM THE PORT AND THE TERMINALS TO THE, UH, TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA. 
          UM, I MEAN, I, AND, AND WE'RE DOING THIS MORE OR LESS JOINTLY WITH THE CITY, AND SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO LIMIT OURSELVES TO THINK IN TERMS OF, OF PORT INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, NOT JUST PORT INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS SOME VERY NICE PLACES. 
          THEY'VE GOT SOME COVERED FOR A COUPLE OF BLOCKS. 
          THEY'VE GOT COVERED WALKWAYS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE VERY, I THINK VERY NICE AND AND APPEALING TO PEOPLE. 
          SO I, I'D LIKE TO THAT, THAT'S, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT'S MY THINKING ON THIS IS HOW DO WE LOOK AT, AT BOTH THE IMMEDIATE DOWNTOWN AREA THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE PORT AND THE PORT. 
          LIKE IT'S JUST ONE, LIKE IT'S ALL A SINGLE ENTITY. 
          I, I AGREE. 
          AND I MEAN, IN THE MASTER PLAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRIED TO DO IS CREATE A SOFTER 
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CONNECTION BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE PORT. 
          THERE'S NO FENCES, THERE'S NOTHING SPEND A LOT OF TIME BRINGING GREENING THAT AREA. 
          BUT THE KEY TO GETTING PEOPLE CONNECTING IS TO GIVE 'EM SOMETHING TO DO. 
          IT'S NOT JUST PUTTING A LINEAR PARK AND SO FORTH. 
          UH, UM, IT IS GOTTA BE AN ACTIVITY THAT PEOPLE WILL COME SO FORTH. 
          SO I, I NUMBER ONE, YOU, THE GRID SYSTEM OF THE CITY BRINGS US PERFECTLY INTO THE PORT. 
          WE STRENGTHEN THAT AS MUCH AS WE CAN. 
          UH, WE PUT ALONG THE WATERFRONT SPECIFIC THINGS THAT PEOPLE WILL, WILL PULL IN AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME STRENGTHEN, UM, THE, THE, WHETHER IT'S THE SIDEWALKS OR, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU SAY THIS, PEOPLE GET PIT IN A LOT OF PLACES. 
          YOU ONE JUST PEDESTRIAN, I GO ON THE STREETS, YOU GOT A LOT OF STREET. 
          AND, AND, AND EVERY TIME THEY'VE DONE IT, IT'S WORKED PHENOMENAL. 
          BUT, UH, IT'S VERY HARD FOR PEOPLE TO ACCEPT THAT. 
          BUT ANYWAY, WE GOTTA STRENGTHEN THAT. 
          PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WALK TO THE LIMIT, GO BACK AND FORTH IT AS SIMPLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          SO IT IS, IT IS NOT ONLY THE, AND THEN YOU DID MENTION A FEW THINGS THAT , WHICH IS A PLACE TO LEAVE YOUR LUGGAGE THAT IS DONE IN LOS ANGELES. 
          IT IS NOT AS SUCCESSFUL AS YOU WOULD THINK. 
          UM, AND PARTICULARLY THEY HAVE A BATTLESHIP THERE RIGHT NEXT TO THE TRUCK, AND THEY WERE ENCOURAGING THAT. 
          SO PEOPLE WOULD COME OFF THE VESSEL AND LOCK, YOU KNOW, LOCK THEIR LOG IN. 
          IT HAS TO BE DONE, IT HAS TO BE DONE IN ITS TOTALITY WITH THE CRUISE LINES, THE PASSENGERS LETTING 'EM KNOW BEFORE OR AFTER, BECAUSE WHEN PASSENGERS COMING OFF AND THEY LOOK AT THEIR CLOCK AND SAYS, I GOT A FIVE HOUR DRIVE TO GET A HOME, SHOULD I STAY? SHOULD I STAY FOUR, FIVE MORE HOURS IN GALSTON? THAT'S, THAT'S THE KIND OF THINKING THAT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THEY, THAT THEY, THAT THEY DO. 
          AND, UH, BUT IT COULD BE A, UH, A, A CONCIERGE FACILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THE LUGGAGE. 
          AND THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OTHER ONES IN THAT WE LOOKED AT, AND YOU DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH A RC, BUT IF THERE'S A RC WHERE THE LUGGAGE GOES DIRECTLY TO THE AIRPORT AND THEN PEOPLE WANT, PEOPLE ARE FREE TO DO WHAT? JUST STUFF. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BEST, THE BEST EXAMPLE I COULD TELL YOU IN SAN FRANCISCO, WHEN WE DID THE THERMAL IN SAN FRANCISCO, THE  THAT HAD PLANNED FOR THE ERO, THAT THAT PLACE WAS GOING TO BE THE ONE OPEN PARK, PUBLIC PARK, WHICH THE COAST GUARD DIDN'T WANT. 
          WELL ANYWAY, WE PUT THE OLD FRONT PARK, BUT WHAT WE DID IS WE SHRUNK THE WAITING ROOM ON THE TERMINAL. 
          SO IT SORT OF ENCOURAGED OR FORCE PEOPLE TO SAY, I'M GONNA GO WALK, I'M GONNA GO OUTSIDE AND I'M NOT GONNA BE SITTING IN THE AROUND. 
          UH, WE CHECK IN AREA AND THIS WORKS, YOU KNOW, IT, IT WORK AND, AND THE CREW FLIES DOWN FOR PEOPLE TO COME AT DIFFERENT TIMES. 
          SO IT, IT IS GONNA TAKE ALL AND ALL AMOUNT, EFFORT OF EVERY TYPE OF IDEA THAT YOU CAN, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL, UM, PHYSICAL, OPERATIONAL, AND, UH, I THINK YOU CAN GET THERE BECAUSE IT GET INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY. 
          YOU GOT 4 MILLION, WHO KNOWS WHERE YOU'RE GONNA GO, YOU KNOW WHERE YOU WANT TO GO. 
          THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE NEVER THOUGHT WE'D SEE THE DAYS WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, TWO FOURS NOW OR FOR 10 MILLION PASSENGERS. 
          SO, UH, AND, AND THE CRUISE DOES, THEY'RE THERE GETTING THERE. 
          I MEAN, ISN'T IT SAFE? SO IT'S A LOT OF WORK. 
          A LOT. 
          I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, IT IS SAFE TO SAY YOU HAVE TO CREATE A REASON, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          YOU HAVE TO CREATE A REASON FOR SOMEBODY TO WANT TO STAY LONGER. 
          I MEAN, JUST THE FACT THAT YOU GOT WATER HERE IN DOWNTOWN HERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING ON THE PORT OTHER THAN HERE, YOU KNOW, 19, THAT WHOLE AREA THERE THAT OFFERS ANYTHING FOR INTERACTIVITY, RIGHT? SO I THINK WHAT BRUCE WAS SAYING IS, IS THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IT IN THE NEW MASTER PLAN IS THEY'VE CREATED THIS WHOLE NEW AREA AFTER NEAR THE BATTLESHIP, BUT THERE'S GOTTA BE A REASON, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOTTA BE A REASON BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T JUST GONNA LINGER AROUND THAT I DON'T BELIEVE. 
          UM, I, I DIDN'T MEAN TO TELL GO AHEAD. 
          IF YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY, LOUIS, SO I TOTALLY AGREE. 
          AND, AND THEN PICK YOUR TARGETS. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY, THERE ARE IN SOME PLACES THAT'S BETTER TO SAY, LET'S, LET'S CAPTURE THESE PEOPLE ON A BEFORE THEY GET ON A CRUISE, COME THE NIGHT BEFORE, STAY IN HOTEL, AND YOU'RE GETTING A LOT OF THAT. 
          YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALREADY GETTING A LOT OF THAT. 
          I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT THE HOTEL RATES IN TON, IF I GO THERE THE NIGHT THAT THERE'S A CREW THAT CRUISES THE NEXT DAY, THE PRICES ARE MUCH HIGHER. 
          SO, UM, THAN THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK. 
          SO WHETHER, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S CAPTURING THIS AND LEARNING MODEL IT, IT IS HAPPENING THAT WHAT HAPPENING THERE, BUT THAT'S ONE WAY TO DO IT. 
          AND THEN YOU HAVE NIGHTTIME OR PIVOTS AND SO FORTH. 
          THE POST IS 
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TYPICALLY THE MOST CHALLENGING AS PEOPLE ARE COMING OFF. 
          THEY'VE JUST COME OFF A VACATION TIME, YOU GET STAY, GOTTA SELL. 
          OKAY? GALVESTON IS A PROTOCOL, JUST LIKE YOU WENT , YOU KNOW, STAY IN GALVESTON BECAUSE WE GOT THINGS TO DO IF, UH, AND, AND THEN WE GO CONNECT THE DOTS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          BOB BROWN HAS COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN HAS A QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, THIS, I LIKE THE, WHERE THIS PART OF THE DISCUSSION IS GOING ABOUT TRYING TO, TRYING TO ENCOURAGE ALL THESE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING CRUISING TO COME DOWNTOWN AND SPEND SOME MONEY. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE GOOD IDEAS. 
          UH, BUT YOU KNOW, UH, ROGER, YOU SAID THERE'S GOTTA BE SOMETHING THERE, RIGHT? AND I, I THINK WE KIND OF, WE KIND OF HAVE THAT WITH OUR DOWNTOWN, BUT PEOPLE CRUISING ARE NOT A LOT OF 'EM AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH YAL. 
          SO WE GOT, THEY HAVE TO FEEL SAFE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO FEEL SAFE AND, AND WHEN THEY, AND THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO, THEY HAVE TO BE SURE THAT THEY'RE GONNA MEET THEIR SCHEDULES. 
          IF THEY GOT SOMEBODY COMING TO PICK 'EM UP AND WE WANT TO GET 'EM DOWNTOWN, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S EXTREMELY RELIABLE TO DO THAT AND IT'S SAFE. 
          AND THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT CROSSING HARBORSIDE DRIVE, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT WE HAVE THE SAFE STREET PROGRAM, RIGHT? THAT'S LOOKING AT THAT. 
          SO, UH, THOSE ARE ALL REALLY, REALLY GOOD THINGS TO, TO THINK ABOUT, I THINK. 
          BUT I DON'T ALSO WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS, THIS IS A JOINT STUDY BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE PORT. 
          AND A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS THAT THE CITY IS TRYING TO ADDRESS MAY NOT BE EXCLUSIVELY RELATED TO CRUISE SHIP, BUT IT OVERLAPS. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY YOU SEE IN, UH, IN, IN THE STUFF THAT WE SENT YOU, THE, UH, LANGUAGE ABOUT PARKING, THAT'S A REAL, REAL BIG PROBLEM IN, IN THE DOWNTOWN CITY. 
          AND, AND OUR AREA, PROJECT AREA OF COURSE COVERS FROM THE WATERFRONT ALL THE WAY TO CHURCH STREET, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BEYOND THE, DOWN RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF THE DOWNTOWN AND THEN 10TH STREET ALL THE WAY TO 33RD STREET, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE LAST CRUISE SHIP TERMINAL GOING EAST. 
          UH, SO YOU KNOW, THOSE, AND WE TALK ABOUT THE STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, AND IF WE DON'T ADDRESS PARKING, OUR STAKEHOLDERS DOWNTOWN ARE GONNA WONDER WHY. 
          I THINK IT'S A, IT'S AN IMPORTANT SUBJECT AND IT'S SOMETHING THE CITY HAS BEEN DEALING WITH FOR HOW LONG? FOREVER. 
          EVER. 
          FOREVER. 
          AND IT, IT'S SOMETHING IF WE, IF WE LEAVE THIS OUT, UH, THIS IS NOT GONNA BE A SUCCESSFUL STUDY. 
          SO WE, WE REALLY HAVE TO DO THIS. 
          NO, I, I FIGURED THERE WAS A REASON WHY YOU WANTED, SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT IT WAS THERE. 
          AND, UH, AND, AND THE ONLY THING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS, THAT WHATEVER FUNDS YOU HAVE COVER THAT, BECAUSE THAT, THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, THAT WILL ADD COST TO THE STUDY. 
          AND BY ITSELF, THAT THAT'S WHAT I WAS POINTING OUT. 
          I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          OKAY, THANKS. 
          THANK YOU, LEWIS. 
          I, I HAVE ONE COMMENT ABOUT MY, THE ENGINEER ASKING THE QUESTION HERE. 
          WE'VE HAD THE SPECIFIC CONVERSATION AROUND THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE GEOGRAPHIC SCOPE AND BOUNDARIES OF THE STUDY, AND I THINK YOU DESCRIBED IT, UH, BOB KIND OF DESCRIBED WHAT WE, WHAT WE KIND OF HAD AS FAR AS MAYBE 10TH STREET, THE 33RD, AND, UH, THE CHANNEL TO CHURCH STREET. 
          UH, WE'VE HAD SOME FOLKS, I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME, THERE IS SOME, A SCHOOL OF THOUGHT ON THE, ON THE COMMITTEE THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE NEED TO GO ALL THE WAY TO BROADWAY TO MAKE SURE WE CAPTURE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE DIFFERENT PIECES COMING IN. 
          AND I THINK WE GOT SOME, YOU KNOW, INPUT THAT THAT'S, YOU GET THIS THING TOO BROAD GEOGRAPHICALLY AND YOU START DILUTING WHAT YOU, UH, ARE REALLY TRYING TO FIND OUT AROUND THE SPECIFIC PORT IN DOWNTOWN AREA. 
          AND I THINK WE KIND OF GOT TO, I THINK DAVID THINK WE, YOU KNOW, THE LAST MILE. 
          THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON KIND OF THE, AND YOU KNOW, GALVESTON PRETTY WELL AND, AND THE PORT AND DOWNTOWN YOU, YOU, THE SCOPE WHAT WE HAVE HERE VERSUS SAYING, EXTENDING THIS SAY ALL THE WAY TO BROADWAY OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY TO THE SEA WALL. 
          WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT DO IF WE MAKE, IF WE TOOK THIS GEOGRAPHIC AREA AND EXTENDED IT TO EITHER ONE OF THOSE? I'LL LET TOM COVER THE, THE IMPLICATE FROM A COST POINT OF VIEW, BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU HAVE A LOT OF INTERSECTIONS AND EVERY INTERSECTION NEEDS TO BE STUDIED, BUT, UM, FROM A TRAFFIC POINT OF VIEW, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT WITH THE PERSONAL TRAFFIC, KNOWING, I KNOW MOST PORT, BY THE TIME YOU GET LIKE FIVE OR SIX BLOCKS AWAY, IT IS THE CRUISE TRAFFIC IS NOT THAT SIGNIFICANT. 
          SO I, I DIDN'T SEE ANY ISSUE, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG, NOT EXTENDING IT ALL THE WAY OUT TO BROAD BANK. 
          UM, THAT WILL HAVE PROBABLY MORE NEED IN TERMS OF THE, THE, THE, THE, THE OTHER POINT THAT SO BROWN MADE ABOUT IT, BE MORE FOR THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER THE COMMUNITY NEEDS THAT OR NOT. 
          BUT, UM, SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW, WE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          AND, AND TOM, DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE, THE NU NUMBER OF INTERSECTIONS THAT THAT GOES INTO THE MODEL THAT, YEAH. 
          UH, BASICALLY THE BIGGER YOUR AREA IS, THE MORE DATA THAT YOU NEED TO COLLECT ON THE FRONT END. 
          UH, SO ANY TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, YOU'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU NEED TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT THE SYSTEM FIRST. 
          AND SO GEOGRAPHICALLY, 
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THE LARGER IT IS, UH, THE MORE YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE IN YOUR STUDY, WHICH NEED MEANS THAT YOU NEED MORE TRAFFIC COUNTS. 
          UH, WE WANT SOME OTHER TYPES OF DATA BESIDES TRAFFIC COUNTS, INCLUDING PEDESTRIAN COUNTS, BUT SOME OTHER, UH, ORIGIN DESTINATION TRAVEL PATTERNS. 
          SO THE BIGGER THE AREA, UH, THE BIGGER THE COST. 
          THAT'S KIND OF THE SIMPLIFICATION OF IT. 
          UM, I, I, I DO AGREE WITH LEWIS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A CERTAIN POINT WHERE THE IMPACT IS NOT MEASURABLE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WHERE IT'S HARD TO NOTICE THE IMPACT ONCE YOU GET A CERTAIN DISTANCE, UH, AWAY FROM IT. 
          BUT YET YOU WANT, YOU WANT TO TAKE A PRETTY BIG BITE AT THE APPLE AND GET AS MUCH FOR IT OUT OF YOU AS YOU CAN. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND. 
          AND THERE'S JUST THIS KIND OF PUSH PULL BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH DO YOU WANNA ACCOMPLISH AND HOW EFFECTIVE CAN YOU BE? AND WHAT, WHAT'S THE COST AND TIME IS ANOTHER PART OF IT. 
          IT IT TAKES LONGER. 
          UH, THE BIGGER YOUR AREA IS JUST TO DO THE ANALYSIS. 
          DAVID FINKLEY HAS A QUESTION WHO HAS A, A PRETTY GOOD BACKGROUND IN TRAFFIC STUDIES AND TRANSPORTATION. 
          SO GO AHEAD, DAVID. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          TOM, THAT'S A, A VERY NICE SUMMARY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE BOUNDARY OF CHURCH TO THE SOUTH ACTUALLY WORKS OUT WELL FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. 
          ONE, IT MEETS YOUR REQUIREMENT OF BEING APPROXIMATELY FIVE BLOCKS FROM THE PORT. 
          UM, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT GIVEN THE GRID SYSTEM AND GIVEN THE ACCESS POINTS TO THE PORT ALONG HARBOR SIDE, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CAPTURE YOUR, UH, THE, THE BOUNDARY, THE IN AND OUT, UH, FROM YOUR NORTH SOUTH MOVEMENTS. 
          UH, AND SO THERE'S NO, THAT'S WHY I DIDN'T SEE THAT THERE WAS ANY NEED TO GO ALL THE WAY TO BROADWAY. 
          IN ADDITION, CAPTURING, TURNING MOVEMENTS ON BROADWAY CAN BE A LITTLE TRICKY BECAUSE OF THE, UH, THE DEPTH OF THE INTERSECTION. 
          UH, AND SO, RIGHT. 
          THE, THE STUDY ON BROADWAY I THINK IS WORTHWHILE, BUT NOT AT THIS EFFORT. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT IT PRODUCES ME, IT WOULD PRODUCE MEANINGFUL RESULTS GIVEN THE ADDITIONAL COST THAT WE WOULD INCUR. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, AGAIN, NOT THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY BENEFIT TO BROADWAY. 
          I'M SURE THERE WOULD BE, UH, BUT THEN IT GETS INTO THE BIGGER PICTURE. 
          AND, UH, AND E EVEN WITH YOU GOT A, A VERY DENSE GRID SYSTEM, AND THAT'S GOOD IN A LOT OF WAYS. 
          UH, SOME OF THOSE STREETS WITHIN THE GRID OR MORE MAJOR THAN OTHERS. 
          SO EVEN JUST A CHURCH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD WANT TO SIT DOWN AND, AND SAY, HOW MUCH OF THESE STREETS DO WE REALLY NEED IN OUR STUDY NETWORK MM-HMM . 
          AND HOW MUCH CAN WE KINDA AGGREGATE TOGETHER, UH, INTO MAYBE THE IMPACT OR THE ENTRY AND EXIT POINTS INTO THE REST OF THE, OF THE NETWORK. 
          SO WHICH ONES ARE REALLY SIGNIFICANT AND WHICH ONES, UM, ARE MORE LOCAL IN FUNCTION, AND DO WE NOT NEED TO PUT UNDER A MICROSCOPE? I, TOM, I AGREE WITH YOU, YOU'RE NORTH, SOUTH STREETS, YOUR NUMBERED STREETS ARE GONNA BE THE ONES THAT YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO, UM, THAT YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO LIMIT. 
          GIVEN THE FACT THAT NOW WE'RE PROPOSING TO GO FROM 10TH TO 33RD, YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T CALL 'EM ARTERIALS, BUT YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO LOOK AT THE ONES THAT FUNCTION MORE LIKE COLLECTORS, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE ALL LOCAL STREETS. 
          SURE. 
          NO, YEAH, I AGREE. 
          UH, AND SO PART OF ANY TRAFFIC STUDY INCLUDES SOME, UH, SOME TIME ON THE GROUND ON THE FRONT END. 
          YOU JUST, YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA BE THERE. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE I CAN SEE JUST IN THAT YOU GOT 14TH STREET AND 12TH STREET, 16TH PROBABLY GET THEY 13TH OR 15TH IS PROBABLY PRETTY MINIMAL. 
          PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THERE, GETTING TO THE PORT. 
          GOOD. 
          IT'S A GOOD RECOMMENDATION. 
          YEAH, NO, GOOD. 
          SO COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN HAD IT, THIS, THIS TUR STREET SOUTHERN BOUNDARY IS ALSO VERY, VERY, UH, RELATED TO OUR PARKING PROBLEM. 
          SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON THAT WE GO INTO CHURCH BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S INCLUDED IN THAT AREA. 
          WE'RE HAVING PROBABLE WHAT IS OKAY, CAN I, WHAT, WHAT ARE, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH HAR? UH, NOT ENOUGH OF IT OR, WELL, THERE'S, THERE'S THERE YOU GOT, UNLIKE ANY OTHER PLACE IN TOWN, YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT TOURISTS TRYING TO GET THERE. 
          YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE DRIVING THROUGH, YOU'VE GOT PEOPLE WHO OWN BUSINESSES TRYING TO GET THEIR WORKERS THERE. 
          YOU'VE GOT LOCALS TRYING TO GET THERE, AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS JUST ATTRACTED TO IT, BUT THEY'RE, IT WAS BUILT BEFORE THE DAY OF CARS AND FOR CARS, SO IT WAS REALLY, WHAT, 600 PLACES DOWNTOWN, 600. 
          THERE'S REALLY NO PLACES TO PARK. 
          AND, AND, UH, SO EVERYBODY WANTS TO PARK IN FRONT OF WHERE THEY'RE GOING, RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN DOWNTOWN. 
          PEOPLE DON'T WANNA PAY FOR PARKING OR PAY AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE. 
          THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. 
          AND, UH, WE, WE JUST HAVE NOT ANYWHERE CLOSE TO SALT WHEN THIS PARKING PROBLEM FOR THE LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER. 
          AND THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY, I THINK, BECAUSE WE HAVE A LITTLE OVERLAPPING INTEREST IN THAT. 
          UH, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWERS ARE. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE MADE A LOT OF SUGGESTIONS HERE ABOUT, UH, CIRCULATING, CIRCULATING 
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TRANSPORTATION, UH, UH, MICRO TRANSIT, ON DEMAND, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT KIND OF THING. 
          BUT WE JUST DON'T, WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT THIS A LOT MORE CLOSELY THAN WE EVER HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND MAY MAYBE THERE, AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME, I KNOW LOUIS OR TOM, MAYBE YOU GUYS HAVE SOME THOUGHTS, OR, OR DAVID, IT'S, IS THERE SOME WAY TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE GOT A MOBILITY STUDY AND THEN MAYBE THE, THE DOWNTOWN PARKING BECOMES NOT, NOT SEPARATE, BUT IT'S PART OF IT, BUT MAYBE THERE'S A FOCUS ON SOME OF THE OTHER MOBILITY PIECES AROUND THE PORT, AND THEN THE DOWNTOWN PARKING COULD BE SOMETHING THAT THERE'S A DEEPER DIVE THAT YOU KIND OF DO, NOT NECESSARILY PARALLEL OR WHATEVER, BUT IT'S, IT'S, MAYBE WE FOCUS FIRST ON THE, BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK WE'VE GOT A BIG ISSUE FROM, I MEAN, IT'S, SAY THE CITY HAS THE ISSUE, SOME OF THE DOWNTOWN THINGS. 
          I KNOW FROM THE PORT STANDPOINT, IT'S REALLY US UNDERSTANDING THOSE, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC FLOWS AROUND THE PORT, PEOPLE MOVEMENT AROUND THE PORT. 
          AND THEN I THINK, AS DAVID SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT, CURRENTLY GOT A FOUR AS YOU GUYS LEWIS WELL KNOW, THERE'S FOUR, YOU, WE HAVE FOUR SHIFT DAYS, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR A FIVE SHIP DAY MM-HMM . 
          AND SO TAKING THIS MODEL OF, YOU KNOW, FOUR, WHAT DOES THAT DO? THEN YOU THROW A FIFTH SHIP ON THERE, STRESS TESTING THAT, WHAT DOES, DOES THAT, WHAT DOES THAT BREAK SOMETHING? OR WHERE ARE OTHER ISSUES? THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK FOR THE PORT THAT WE NEED, WE NEED SOME GOOD FEEDBACK AND UNDERSTANDING. 
          SO AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR WE CAN MAKE SOME DECISIONS. 
          I THINK THE PARKING, THE DOWNTOWN PARKING MAY, THE TIMELINE MAY NOT BE AS, AS, AS TIME AS CRITICAL. 
          WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR IS AS TIMELY AS THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, IF THAT DOWNTOWN PARKING STUDY EXTENDED BY A NUMBER OF MONTHS INTO THE, YOU KNOW, SUMMER OR WHATEVER, I, THAT TO ME WOULDN'T BE AS BIG OF A, YOU KNOW, IF WE GET SOME INFORMATION ON MORE OF THE MOBILITY AROUND THE PORT AREA AND, AND THE, YOU KNOW, THINGS WITH FOUR SHIPS AND FIVE SHIPS, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE, WE COULD WAIT A LITTLE WHILE I THINK IN THE TIMING TO GET SOME MORE INPUT ON THE DOWNTOWN STUFF. 
          IS THAT A, A PRACTICAL WAY TO LOOK AT IT, OR I JUST WAY OFF BASE THERE COULD BE DONE AS ELEMENTS OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE PLAN AND TOTALITY AND SPIN . 
          OBVIOUSLY THE DOWNTOWN PARKING IS GONNA BE REALLY, UM, LOOK HIGH NOT ONLY FOR THE DEMAND FOR THE RETAIL, BUT FUTURE GROWTH OF THE DOWNTOWN. 
          SO THAT REALLY WHERE NOW YOU GOTTA GO AND START THINKING ABOUT WHAT IF A FEW THESE LOTS START GETTING DEVELOPED, THEN I KNOW THEY'LL HAVE TO CARRY THEIR OWN PARKING. 
          BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE BIGGEST, THAT'S THE, THAT'LL BE THE BIGGEST, UH, ISSUE DEALING WITH THE, THAT RAIL PARKING UNIT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UH, I, I REALLY SEE THIS AS SOMETHING KIND OF MODULAR THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, THE WORK AROUND THE PORT AND THE MOBILITY STUDY, UH, REALLY IS THE IMPETUS FOR ALL OF IT. 
          BUT CERTAINLY THE PARKING, UH, IS A NATURAL NEXT STEP. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, AND THERE, THERE'S DEFINITELY GONNA BE A KIND OF A HANDOFF BETWEEN THE TWO. 
          IN, IN, IN BOSTON. 
          UH, WE, YOU KNOW, WE MADE A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT, UM, TAKING AN EXISTING PARKING FACILITY AND MAYBE TURNING THAT THE FIRST FLOOR OF THAT INTO, UH, A RIDE SHARE PICK UP, DROP OFF PLACE, YOU KNOW, SO YOU KINDA SEE HOW THESE THINGS COME TOGETHER AND ONE DOVETAILS INTO THE OTHER. 
          BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I A LOT OF TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY OF WHICH THE, THE MOBILITY STUDY COULD MAYBE JUST BE A FIRST STEP. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE A, A SCOPE RELATED TO PARKING, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, I MEAN, WE ALL HAVE MORE PARKING SPACES, EITHER PORT GENERATED PARKING, EITHER ON THE PORT PROPERTY OR OFF THE PORT PROPERTY. 
          UH, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE 602 SPACES THAT, THAT, THAT TREY'S TALKING ABOUT. 
          BUT GIVEN THE FACT THAT Y'ALL ARE A HUGE GENERATOR OF PARKING REQUIREMENTS, IT, WE, THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE INITIAL STUDY NOW. 
          AND THAT ALSO, IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE, I MEAN, YOU HAVE THE MASTER PLAN, WHICH STARTS TO INFORM YOUR, YOUR LAND USES. 
          AND GIVEN THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GATHER FROM THIS, THIS PROVIDES A REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PORT AND THE CITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW DO WE IMPROVE THAT PARKING EXPERIENCE FOR OUR, OUR GUESTS AND OUR VISITORS, BOTH JUST EITHER CREWS OR NON CREWES. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART. 
          I THINK GOING BACK TO THE MAIN REASON WHY WE, WE ARE DOING THE MOBILITY STUDY, IT'S TO IDENTIFY, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE DEFICIENCIES THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS, UH, PRIOR TO CONSIDERATION OF, UH, UH, TERMINAL 10 EXPANSION. 
          AND SO, JEFF, I UNDERSTAND, OR MR. CHAIRMAN, SORRY, MY APOLOGIES. 
          , UH, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED, THAT'S THE REAL PRIORITY AND, AND WE DEFINITELY WANT TO AGREE TO A SCOPE TO GET THIS KICKED OFF CORRECTLY. 
          UM, AND I WAS WRITING DOWN SOME OTHER NOTES ABOUT SOME OF THE OBJECTIVES OF, OF, TO DATE. 
          HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THROUGH, AS YOU KNOW, CONFIRMING THE SCOPE GOING THROUGH PROCUREMENT. 
          WHAT CAN WE SET A ROUGH BUDGET EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW 
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THAT PART OF THIS IS GOING TO INCLUDE A PUBLIC OUTREACH COMPONENT BY WHICH, UH, THEY VERY, UH, BA VERY CLEARLY SAID, HEY, WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND, UH, PUBLIC SPECIFIC ISSUES THAT THEY WANT COVERED. 
          WHICH OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE GONNA RECEIVE THAT INPUT, BUT THAT'S GONNA ALSO AFFECT YOUR SCOPE AND AFFECT YOUR BUDGET. 
          SO, AND THEN ALSO UNDERSTAND THE TIMELINE. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW ROGER, UH, THE, THERE, THERE'S SOME, A SENSE OF URGENCY IN ORDER TO GET THIS STUDY DONE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DEFICIENCIES OR WHAT IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE ACCOMPLISHED IN ORDER TO CONSIDER A FUTURE EXPANSION. 
          THAT'S TO MY COMMENT ABOUT PARKING. 
          I THINK THAT'S GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, WELL SAID. 
          SO SHEILA, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UH, YES. 
          I, UM, TRUSTEE , I, I, FOR ME IT'S SECONDARY, THE URGENCY OF CREATING A FIFTH TERMINAL FOR ME, WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE STREET NOW IS WHAT IS URGENT. 
          AND THAT IS THAT WE SEE PARENTS WITH SMALL CHILDREN TAKING THEIR SUITCASES, PULLING THEM BEHIND THEM ACROSS FOUR OR FIVE LANES OF TRAFFIC. 
          SOMETIMES THERE'S A TRAFFIC COP, SOMETIMES THERE'S A LIGHT, SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT. 
          SOMETIMES THERE'S SIDEWALKS, SOMETIMES THERE AREN'T. 
          AND SO, IN AS MUCH AS I AGREE WITH WHAT DAVID SAID, UM, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT CAN WE DO RIGHT AWAY TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE WE HAVE INVITED HERE TO GALVESTON, TEXAS. 
          AND DON'T, DON'T MISCONSTRUE MY, MY COMMENTS, I'M NOT THE IDEA OF IDENTIFYING INFRASTRUCTURE DEFICIENCIES. 
          THAT'S ONE PIECE OF IT. 
          BUT THEN AS YOU SAID, MAKING SURE THOSE, THOSE, UH, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE IN PLACE PRIOR TO, UM, MOVING FORWARD WITH ANOTHER TERMINAL. 
          BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE PLAYED CATCH UP ON THE, THE PAST TWO, UH, TERMINAL EXPANSIONS. 
          I MEAN, UH, AND SO, BUT WE, WE HAVEN'T CAUGHT THAT UP. 
          I MEAN, WE HAVE MORE PARKING. 
          WELL, WE HAVEN'T, BUT IN, IN A, IN AN IDEAL WORLD, IN URBAN PLANNING, YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU PUT IN YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS PRIOR, PRIOR TO SEEING THOSE, UH, THOSE INCREASED, EITHER THE INCREASED IMPACTS. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY THE GOAL. 
          RIGHT? AND WE HAVE, I MEAN, AND WE HAVE, I'M DIGRESSING, WE HAVE SOME OF THAT WITH THE SAFE STREETS, AND THAT WAS WHAT THEY LOOKED AT WAS EACH OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS FROM 10TH TO 33RD, 41ST AND 33RD, I GET 37. 
          AND SO WE HAD THE $10 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS THAT THEY CAME UP WITH. 
          SURE. 
          BUT WE'VE GOT FUNDING, I KNOW, FOR 2.6 MILLION. 
          SO WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT THE ABILITY TO, TO GET IT. 
          SHEILA'S POINT ABOUT, THAT'S SPECIFICALLY INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS ON HARBOR SIDE, BEING ABLE TO GET PEOPLE ACROSS IN A SAFE PROFESSION. 
          BUT IT'S A STUDY. 
          CORRECT. 
          WE'VE GOT $2.6 MILLION OF THAT'S FUND, THAT'S WHERE PROJECTS, WHAT, I'M SORRY, THAT'S CRITICAL TO THEIR STUDY TO KNOW THAT, RIGHT. 
          THOSE SOLUTIONS ARE, THOSE ARE PIECES THAT WE NEED TO OBVIOUSLY FEED INTO. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE WANT TO DO. 
          AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT WORK GOING ON. 
          WE KNOW THERE'S A TRAFFIC STUDY BEING DONE FOR A POTENTIAL FIFTH TERMINAL THAT NEEDS TO GET, I MEAN, THERE, THERE'S NUMEROUS INFORMATION. 
          THE CITY HAS A NUMBER OF THINGS GOING ON. 
          THOSE NEED TO BE, THOSE ARE ALL DATA POINTS TO FEED INTO THIS STUDY. 
          I, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND BA FOR THEIR NEW TASKS ON TASK FIVE AND TASK EIGHT, THE TRAFFIC GENERATION. 
          THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T HAVE IN THE ORIGINAL SCOPE OF WORK, AND I REALIZED I LEFT IT OUT, BUT WAS TO INCLUDE FORECAST OF CRUISE TRAFFIC NUMBERS. 
          AND, BUT WHATEVER REASON, I WAS SO FOCUSED ON THE EXISTING CONDITION THAT I NEGLECTED TO SAY THAT YOU YEAH. 
          WE NEEDED TO MODEL THAT FUTURE, UH, TERMINAL EXPANSION. 
          SO WE UNDERSTAND AND, AND YEAH, WE WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL SHIPS IN TERMINAL 16. 
          YEAH, EXACTLY. 
          SO I THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU GENTLEMEN FOR CATCHING THAT. 
          APPRECIATE THAT. 
          SO YEAH, BUT I, AND SHEILA, YOU RAISED A GREAT POINT ABOUT IT'S GETTING PEOPLE SAFELY BACK AND FORTH ACROSS HARBOR. 
          I MEAN, ONE OF THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WITH OUR WALKWAY OVER HERE THAT WE'RE SO TRYING HARD TO GET OUR ELEVATED WALKWAY OVER 25TH AT 25TH STREET TO DUMP, TO NOT LET PEOPLE, 'CAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGER ISSUES WE KNOW WE HAVE IS PEOPLE WALKING ACROSS HARBORSIDE AT 25TH STREET AND IF WE OPEN THAT WALKWAY UP, WE CLOSE THE GATES AND WE DO NOT LET THEM WALK ACROSS THERE ANYMORE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          BUT IT'S NOT JUST 25TH STREET, RIGHT? IT'S, IT, IT'S OTHERS. 
          I I LIVE ON 14TH. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S WHERE, RIGHT. 
          AND WE, AND ALL OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS WE'RE STUDIED AS PART OF THE SAFE STREETS AND WE THAT, I THINK THAT'S PART OF THIS 2.6 MILLION. 
          WE'VE GOTTA PRIORITIZE WHERE WE WANT TO SPEND THAT MONEY. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE THOSE CRITICAL SAFETY ISSUES AND THEIR SOLUTION INVOLVED, LIKE TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES ALONG HARBOR SIDE AND SHORTENING THE DISTANCE PEDESTRIANS HAVE TO TRAVERSE? YEAH, THERE WAS A WIDE, AND ROGER, THERE WAS A WIDE, I MEAN, IT'S A VERY THICK, THOROUGH STUDY. 
          ACTUAL, ACTUAL PHYSICAL, PHYSICAL INTERVENTIONS INTO THE STREET ITSELF. 
          CORRECT. 
          BUT 
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THAT'S KIND OF, IT'S KIND OF DIGRESSING A LITTLE BIT, I GUESS FOR LEWIS AND FOR TOM. 
          AND I KNOW, LEWIS, IF YOU'RE STILL WITH US, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU? I KNOW YOU GUYS WERE GENEROUS TO, TO GIVE US SOME TIME. 
          I'M HERE. 
          WE WANNA BE RESPECTFUL. 
          SO ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LEWIS OR FOR TOM IN THIS DOCUMENT? UH, ON THE LAST PAGE? I'M NOT, I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHO PREPARED THE DOCUMENT. 
          IT SAYS BUDGET EXPECTATIONS. 
          UH, WE WERE, WE WERE TOLD YESTERDAY THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE ABOUT 50,000. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE CONSIDERABLY MORE THAN THE THAT YES. 
          50. 
          WE, I, I THINK JUST BECAUSE I, NO, THAT'S PAR THE PARKING. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          JUST BECAUSE I, I WANT TO, UM, KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK DA DAVID, YOU HAD SOME INITIAL NUMBERS, LIKE 50 I THINK WAS KIND OF LOW. 
          50 WAS LOW FOR THE TRAFFIC STUDY. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT, BUT THAT WAS JUST PURELY FOR A TRAFFIC STUDY. 
          AND, AND THAT WAS A MORE CONFINED AREA AS WELL. 
          I WAS LIMITED INTO 14TH OR 16TH, NOT GOING ALL THE WAY TO 10TH. 
          SO, AND IT WAS JUST PURELY YOUR BOUNDARY STUDY, UH, LOOKING AT THE TRAFFIC AND VEHICULAR IMPACTS. 
          SO I I, I THINK THAT WHAT THEY PROPOSED HERE IS PROBABLY MORE ON BOARD WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE. 
          YEAH. 
          GIVEN THE SCOPE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, MODE SPLITS AND, UM, THE TROLLEY INVESTIGATION AND DISCUSSION OF EARLY DISCUSSION ABOUT PARKING, YOU COULD SPEND 50,000 JUST ON THE DATA COLLECTION. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO ANYTHING, ANYTHING ELSE FOR TOM AND FOR LEWIS? SURE. 
          MAKE A COMMENT, PLEASE. 
          SURE. 
          YEAH, PLEASE TRY. 
          AND THAT WAS WHY I ORIGINALLY ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT THE DEFINITION BETWEEN TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY, OR HOW Y'ALL SAW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY. 
          FOR ME, I, I REPRESENT THE DOWNTOWN GUY, UNDER THE DOWNTOWN GUY. 
          IT IS NOT, WE KNOW THE PARKING CONSTRAINTS THAT WE HAVE. 
          WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T, I DON'T EXPECT THAT ONE CRUISE PASSENGER HAS EVER PARKED IN DOWNTOWN AND ARE ALMOST FEW OR THE FEW THINGS. 
          AND IT'S NOT PHYSIC FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WE CAN'T PUT ANY MORE CARS PARKED IN DOWNTOWN. 
          BUT WE DO SEE, LIKE SHEILA WAS SAYING, THERE ARE PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW WHERE, BY THE WAY, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T, BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY SHOW UP AND LIKE, WHERE'D COME FROM, UH, BUT FROM IN MY MIND, BECAUSE IT'S, I SEE THIS AS SUCH A BIGGER ISSUE THAT, THAT FOR NOW, THAT PROBLEM, AND I KNOW ROGER'S LOOKING AT ME GOING THERE IS, IS A COUPLE HOURS WORTH OF POLICEMEN STANDING THERE, YOU KNOW, AND TRYING TO GET REALLY FOR THE TIME BEING, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          FOR THE TIME BEING. 
          THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE, BECAUSE WE, AGAIN, THE, THE, WE DON'T PARK CARS DOWNTOWN FOR CRUISE PEOPLE, BUT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, AND SO WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOR WHAT WE HAVE. 
          WELL, AND THAT WAS MY POINT EARLIER THAT I SAID THAT THE INFORMATION THAT YOU WOULD GATHER IN A, IN A PARKING SCOPE OR PARKING STUDY COULD THEN HELP TO INFORM AND REFINE THE MASTER PLAN AND HELP TO POSSIBLY ADDRESS A PARKING, PARKING DEFICIENCY, NOT JUST FOR CRUISE GENERATED TRAFFIC, BUT FOR YOUR VISITORS DOWNTOWN. 
          AND, AND IT MAY NOT BE WITHIN YOUR BOUNDARIES OF YOUR DISTRICT. 
          IT MIGHT BE ON PORT PROPERTY, UHHUH, , OR IT MIGHT BE OUTSIDE OF YOUR FORMAL DISTRICT, BUT YOU ARE AN ADJACENT STAKEHOLDER TO A LARGER PARKING PROBLEM. 
          PROBLEM. 
          YES. 
          I, I WANT TO, WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PARKING AND THE LACK OF THE DOWNTOWN, UH, I THINK I, WE, WE CAN'T FORGET THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE, HOPEFULLY I EXPECT A CIAN SMITH LOT, WHICH WILL, WHICH IF, IF EVERY EVERYTHING GOES OKAY, THEN WE'RE GONNA GET PEOPLE, THAT'D BE ONE WAY TO GET PEOPLE MOVING FROM ACROSS HARBORSIDE, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN, BETWEEN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND, AND THE PORT AREA. 
          AND THEN SECOND TO THAT, WE HAVE PROBABLY, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS I'D HAVE TO ROGER TO HAVE TO THINK, YOU KNOW, PLANTED OUT, BUT WE JUST, WE JUST BOUGHT, BROUGHT ON SOMETHING LIKE 2,500 PARKING SPACES. 
          AND THAT WILL PROBABLY NOT BE, UM, IMPACTED BY CREWS FOR, WE'LL, WE'LL NEED AT LEAST PROBABLY, I WOULD THINK, TWO OR THREE MORE SHIPS BEFORE THAT MUCH CRUISE TRAFFIC IS THERE TO, TO, TO USE ALL THE CAPACITY WE JUST BOUGHT ON. 
          AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A WAY TO GET GITH US. 
          LET'S GET LET'S, AND WE CAN DO THAT NOW. 
          GET PEOPLE PARKING ACROSS THE STREET WHEN THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, GET A LITTLE HELP FROM THE PARKS BOARD WITH ADVERTISING. 
          AND IT'S GOTTA BE SAFE GETTING BACK AND FORTH ADVERTISING, BECAUSE IT'S EVEN AT THAT. 
          'CAUSE YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH STEVEN SMITH ABOUT THIS GARAGE AND ALL THAT STUFF, AND IT, EVEN AT THAT POINT, IT'S STILL ACROSS FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF HARBORSIDE. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          YOU KNOW, AND THAT, 
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MY WHOLE THING IS WE GOTTA GET OVER HARBORSIDE. 
          RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, AND SO I I, GOSH, I, I'D LIKE TO BUILD A 10,000 STORY PARKING. 
          IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE SOLUTION. 
          I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE COMPLICATING THE MATTER, UM, BECAUSE HERE AGAIN, UM, THE OPE, AND THIS IS THE QUESTION I ASKED AT THE LAST MEETING, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT MOVING FROM DOWNTOWN TO THE PORT? RIGHT NOW? WE TALK ABOUT PEOPLE WALKING ACROSS THE INTERSECTION HERE. 
          THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE EITHER PARKING IN A PRIVATE LOT THAT THEY DON'T WANNA WAIT ON SHUTTLES OR THEY ARE TAKING, IF THEY CAN FIND AN AVAILABLE SPACE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR, THEY'LL PARK, THEY'LL, THEY'LL GO OUT HERE AND PARK, PARK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE ANSWER IS OVER THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA HAVE, IF YOU HAVE THESE INTERSECTIONS, YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA HAVE TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THOSE INTERSECTIONS. 
          AND WE CAN, WE CAN PUT BETTER LIGHTS THERE. 
          WE CAN PUT, WE CAN PUT OFFICERS THERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, BUT IS THIS REALLY THE ISSUE? I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY WHAT I KEEP COMING BACK TO YOU. 
          WHAT IS REALLY THE ISSUE? I THINK YOU'RE TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT CRUISE PASSENGERS AND THIS, OUR OBJECTIVE HERE IS NOT JUST CRUISE PASSENGERS. 
          WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT NON CRUISE BASED TRIPS. 
          AND SO TO WHERE, SO THE OPPORTUNITY HERE IS FOR US TO LOOK AT THE PORT AND DOWNTOWN COLLECTIVELY AS AN ECONOMIC ENGINE. 
          OKAY. 
          IT DOESN'T STOP AT HARBORSIDE. 
          AND WHILE I, YOU KNOW, YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          YOU'RE NOT SEEING A LOT OF CREWS. 
          WELL, YES, HARBORSIDE IS BY FAR THE BIGGEST BARRIER BETWEEN THE TWO. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE'VE CREATED THAT. 
          AND I THINK WHAT, WHAT THE OBJECTIVE OF THIS MOBILITY STUDY IS, IS ALONG WITH SAFE STREETS, ALONG WITH THESE OTHER, THIS OTHER STUDY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WHAT OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS CAN WE MAKE IN ORDER TO MAKE THE PARKING EXPERIENCE THE CRUISE EXPERIENCE THE BEST FOR OUR VISITORS AND MAKE IT THE SAFEST AS POSSIBLE? AND IT'S A COMBINATION OF A LOT OF THINGS. 
          WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS, IS PART OF IT. 
          UM, I WILL SAY THAT WHENEVER THE MEASURE OF SUCCESS WILL BE, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE OPERATE OFFICERS ON THE PICKLES, THAT'S WHEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE HAVE SUCCESS. 
          THAT WE'VE GOT APPROPRIATE VEHICLE MOVEMENTS THAT ARE ALSO TIMED WITH PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENTS ACROSS THAT CORRIDOR. 
          AND WE DON'T HAVE OFFICERS THAT ARE BREAKING IN, EXCUSE ME, OPENING UP THE BOXES AND OPERATING REMOTELY WITH THE PICKLE. 
          THAT IS HOW YOU MEASURE SUCCESS. 
          AND BEFORE ANYBODY COUNTERS THAT, I HAVE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW WE DID THIS UPTOWN HOUSTON GALLIA AREA. 
          MAN, IT GETS PACKED DURING CHRISTMAS, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU CAN BARELY MOVE ACROSS POST OAK AND WESTHEIMER. 
          FOR YEARS. 
          FOR YEARS, WE HAD, WE PAID OFFICERS TO MANAGE THOSE INTERSECTIONS REMOTELY WITH, WITH THE PICKLE. 
          UH, AND THE PROBLEM WAS, IS THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY CREATING MORE TRAFFIC CONGESTION THAN IF WE CORRECTLY TIME THE SIGNALS TO ALLOW BOTH VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENTS THROUGH THAT CORRIDOR. 
          WE SAW THAT ALONG WESTHEIMER ALL THE WAY FROM SIX 10 ALL THE WAY TO SAGE. 
          AND WE SAW IT ALONG POST OAK ALL THE WAY FROM SAN FELIPE DOWN TO RICHMOND, UM, ACTUALLY WEST ALABAMA. 
          BUT, UH, THAT'S A MEASURE OF SUCCESS BECAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, WHILE IT'S A SHORT TERM SOLUTION AND YOU CAN PRIORITIZE SOME MOVEMENTS, MAINLY VEHICULAR MOVEMENTS, IT DOES IT, THAT ONE OFFICER DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS UP AND DOWN THE ENTIRE SYSTEM. 
          SO THANKS FOR LETTING ME DO A LITTLE. 
          ONE OF THE STUDIES, LITTLE EDUCATION WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW AT THE CITY IS, UH, IS LOOKING INTO AN ADVANCED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM USING AI TO CONTROL ALL THESE INTERSECTIONS AND TO GET AWAY FROM THE PICKLE, WHATEVER THAT IS, TO CONTROL TRAFFIC. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M SO SORRY. 
          IT'S THE REMOTE CONNECTS INTO THE TRAFFIC CONTROL. 
          I'M SO INTERJECT SOMETHING. 
          YEAH, GO AHEAD, PLEASE. 
          YEAH, I WAS GONNA ASK YOU GUYS TO KIND OF COMMENT ON THE, ON THE DISCUSSION HERE AS YOU'RE LISTENING. 
          SO, SO THE, THE ADAPTIVE CONTROL SYSTEM THAT'S GOING IN, I, I SAW THE, THE LETTER RECOMMENDING THAT I ACTUALLY USED TO WORK FOR STANTEC, UH, I THINK WAS A CONSULTANT SELECTED FOR THAT. 
          UM, JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, ADAPTIVE CONTROL MEANS IT FLUCTUATES IN RESPONSE TO DEMAND. 
          YEAH. 
          GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT PEDESTRIANS, UH, BOTH CURRENT AND PROJECTED ARE PART OF THAT CONVERSATION. 
          YEP. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT IT TO WHERE IT MOVES TRAFFIC A LOT BETTER AT THE EXPENSE OF PEDESTRIANS. 
          CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          GOOD POINT. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
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SO THANK YOU TOM. 
          YEAH, NO, THAT'S GOOD. 
          YEAH, NO. 
          SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR, FOR TOM OR FOR LEWIS WHILE WE'RE, I THINK IT'S BEEN BEEN A GOOD DISCUSSION, I GUESS LEWIS AND TOM, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO KIND OF SUM IT UP AND ANY OTHER FINAL WORDS OF WISDOM THERE FOR US? US, BOB, I HAVE TO RUN. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU AND I HAVE ALREADY TALKED ACROSS THE FINISH LINE. 
          YEAH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          SORRY. 
          NO, GREAT DISCUSSION AND, AND GLAD FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT AND UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, UM, THE COURT INCIDENT GENERATOR, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON TO BE THERE. 
          SO HOW THE CITY TAKES ADVANTAGE OF IT IS KEY. 
          AND, UH, SO THIS WILL GIVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AT THE END IS HOW DO YOU EXECUTE THIS THING, BUT, AND, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU PAY FOR THE SHUTTLE? HOW DO YOU PAY FOR THE, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD SOLUTION BECAUSE YOU HAVE A GOOD NETWORK THERE. 
          AND, UH, IT SHOULD BE, IT COULD, THIS COULD BE A MODEL FOR OTHER PLACES THAT ARE MUCH MORE CONSTRAINED AND THAT THAN THIS. 
          AND, AND, UH, SO NO, NO FURTHER THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          I GUESS, I GUESS IF I SUFFICE TO SAY BETWEEN BA AND WILPERT AND YOU GUYS HAVE THE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE THAT YOU MIGHT, IF YOU, IF YOU WOULD BE, MIGHT BE INTERESTED. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN HELPING US WITH THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          WOULDN WOULD BE OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WELL, WE'LL LET YOU GUYS GO. 
          LEWIS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          A BIT OF AN INCONVENIENCE, BUT WE APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANKS LOUIS. 
          THANKS LOUIS. 
          TO NICE, NICE. 
          THANKS FOR HAVING ME. 
          OKAY. 
          BYE-BYE GUYS. 
          BYE. 
          [D. COMMENTS FROM THE REAL ESTATE COMMITTEE]
UH, YEAH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO PROCURE, UH, THIS CONSULTANT . 
          AND SO I, I TALKED WITH, UH, MIKE CARUSO, PURCHASING DIRECTOR OVER TO SEE, HE SAID, UH, JUST TO, JUST TO CONFIRM HOW WE DO THIS, HE SAID, YOU CAN, YOU CAN USE AN EXISTING IDIQ PRE-QUALIFIED ENGINEERS IF YOU WANT. 
          THE CITY'S GOT 'EM. 
          AND I THINK THE COURT DOES TOO. 
          RIGHT? OR YOU CAN, YOU CAN TAG ONTO AN EXISTING CONTRACT EITHER WAY. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO UP TO AN RFP 'CAUSE YOU CAN DO THOSE TWO THINGS ARE AVAILABLE TO YOU. 
          BUT OF COURSE HE SAID, UH, YOU, YOU DO OF COURSE WANT TO MATCH YOUR SCOPE WITH THE QUALIFICATIONS OF WHOEVER IS YOUR PROPOSING. 
          RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE DO. 
          WE GO OUT, WE'VE GONE OUT FOR A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS IN THE PAST AND EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID. 
          WE, WE MATCH IT UP AND, AND WE HAVE, WE KIND OF HAVE 'EM CATEGORIZED. 
          THESE GUYS DO THIS, THESE GUYS DO THIS, AND UH, YOU KNOW, SO WE, WE TRY TO MATCH, MATCH THAT UP. 
          AND I THINK IT ALSO WHAT TONY WOULD SAY IF HE WERE HERE THAT, UM, THIS IS CONSIDERED PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          THAT'S WHY HE DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO DO THE RFP. 
          WELL, HE CAN DO THE QUOTES OR, OR WHATEVER. 
          I MEAN, BUT YOU KNOW, HERE AGAIN, WHATEVER THE, THE COMMITTEE DECIDES WE WANT TO DO, WE CAN GO THAT ROUTE. 
          I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE A, AS A FORMER PURCHASING PERSON, WE HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY. 
          WE DO BECAUSE IT IS A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES. 
          YES. 
          AND, UH, I THINK, UH, BUT, BUT I'M, I'M AT THIS POINT, I WOULD BE VERY, MY, MY INCLINATION IS TO SAY WE SHOULD OPEN IT UP TO A PRETTY WIDE FIELD, NARROW IT DOWN TO PEOPLE THAT WE, AFTER WE GET SOME RESPONSES, UH, NARROW IT DOWN AND THEN, UH, BRING IN THE, THE BEST, THE, THE, THE THREE BEST, THE THREE THAT GIVE THE, THE FOLKS THE BEST FEELING MM-HMM . 
          AND GO THROUGH SOME INTENSE INTERVIEWS WITH THEM MM-HMM . 
          AND, UH, GET DOWN AND SELECT ONE FROM THAT. 
          BECAUSE YOU CAN LEARN A LOT, YOU CAN LEARN A LOT WHEN YOU GO THROUGH A PROCESS. 
          YEAH. 
          I AGREE A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK YOU WE'RE WE, WE INSIDE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I THINK WE, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT OUR, WE'VE GOT A SCOPE DOCUMENT, WE'VE GOT SOME, WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD DISCUSSIONS AND FEEDBACK. 
          I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT MORE DO WE NEED TO KIND OF DO, YOU KNOW, TAKE THAT NEXT STEP TO BE ABLE TO, TO GET TO THAT OR IF, IF WE DO AN RFQ PROCESS TO, TO GET TO THAT STEP OF MOVING THAT FORWARD. 
          'CAUSE I THINK AT SOME POINT IT IS, YOU KNOW, FROM THIS COMMITTEE, IT GOES TO, IN MY MIND IT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ROGER AND HIS STAFF AND THEN BOB FROM THE CITY, WHO WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE PEOPLE? WOULD IT BE ROB? WELL, IF, SINCE THIS IS A JOINT PROJECT, OF COURSE THE CITY WOULD'VE TO REVIEW IT. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WE GOT TO, WE HAVE TO DEVELOP A A AN RFQ AND USUALLY PURCHASING DEPARTMENT WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          SO, UM, AND I THINK I, I THINK YOU HAVE PRETTY CLOSE TO ENOUGH YEAH. 
          HERE TO GIVE TO THE PEOPLE THAT WRITE THE RFQ AND THEY'LL HANG A LOT OF STUFF ONTO IT. 
          THERE'S LIKE ALL THE LOTS OF STUFF THAT'S REQUIRED. 
          EXACTLY. 
          MORE PLACE STUFF. 
          THEY CAN GIVE YOU A LOT MORE FLUFF AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          THEY'LL ACTUALLY DO THAT. 
          IT PROTECTS THE CITY AND THE PORT. 
          AND THEN I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, I WOULD DO THAT AND, UH, THEN HAVE IT COME BACK TO US FOR, FOR A REVIEW BEFORE IT'S 
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ISSUED. 
          AND THEN, YEAH. 
          THAT SOUNDS FAR. 
          THAT SOUNDS PERFECT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I GUESS THE CITY AND, AND THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT WOULD BOTH WORK ON THIS. 
          THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD THINK. 
          ROGER, WHAT'S YOUR, DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A REASONABLE PATH FORWARD? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I THINK WE JUST FIND IT. 
          I MEAN, AND WE, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO IS TO FIND WHERE WE'RE GONNA GO WITH THIS THING. 
          AND YEAH. 
          AND I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE PRETTY, I MEAN, I THINK WHAT I HEARD OUT OF THE DISCUSSION IS THAT, UH, I KNOW THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW, SENTIMENT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BROADENING IT, BROADENING IT TO BROADWAY. 
          I, I DON'T, I GUESS I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING THAT SAYS WE NEED TO GO DO THAT. 
          NO, NO, WE HAVEN'T EITHER. 
          WE WOULD, WE WOULD CAPTURE, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, IT YOU THINK ABOUT A MATHEMATICAL MODEL, YOU THINK OF, YOU KNOW, EVERY INTERSECTION YOU ADD BETWEEN. 
          NO, I THINK, I THINK WE, I THINK WE'VE GOT A GOOD, BECAUSE I THINK NOW, I THINK, I THINK TO ME, THE PARKING, I MEAN, I THINK, YOU KNOW, FROM THE CITY PERSPECTIVE, CERTAINLY TREY, FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE DOWNTOWN, I MEAN THE PARKING THING, I THINK THAT'S A, AND, AND I LIKE THE WAY TOM DESCRIBED IT, A MODULE. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT'S A, THAT'S A PIECE THAT PROBABLY IF WE WERE JUST DOING THIS AS THE PORT, WE WOULDN'T, WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T FOCUS SO MUCH ON THE PARKING. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          AND YOU GOT, YOU GUYS HAVE ARTICULATED WHY IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          SO I THINK THAT THAT PIECE TO ME, OKAY, WE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ADD THAT FOR THOSE REASONS, BUT BROADENING THIS THING ANYMORE, I DON'T THINK WE REALLY NEED, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO THAT. 
          YOU COULD EVEN, UH, PUT THAT IN THE RFQ AS AN OPTION. 
          YEAH. 
          AS A, AS A, AND SO IF, IF YOU GET SOME INFORMATION BACK AND, AND THE CITY WANTS TO PURSUE IT, THEN IT'S, IT'S ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, YOU KNOW? WELL, AND I THINK MAYBE YOU HAVE SOMEBODY KIND OF PRICE IT OUT AS, YOU KNOW, THIS, THE BASE STUDY IS RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK DAVID USED THAT WORD. 
          YOU KNOW, THE, IT'S A BASE STUDY IS THE MOBILITY STUDY OF THIS AREA. 
          AND THEN THERE'S A, THERE'S A, IT'S NOT AN OPTIONAL, BUT IT IS ANOTHER PIECE TO LOOK DRILL DOWN INTO THE DOWNTOWN PARKING AND REALLY HAVE, HAVE 'EM GIVE US A PRICING AND A TIMELINE ON THOSE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ONE AND THEN THE OTHER, RIGHT. 
          TOGETHER SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE PIECES. 
          BUT THE, THE MOBILITY PART OF IT, THAT'S, THAT IS CRUISE RELATED AND OVERLAPS WITH THAT PROJECT AREA DOWNTOWN. 
          IS THERE, IS THERE, I MEAN, BECAUSE PEOPLE DRIVE THROUGH DOWNTOWN TO GET TO THE CRUISE SHIPS. 
          EXACTLY. 
          PEOPLE DRAG LUGGAGE THROUGH DOWNTOWN BACK UP ON 23RD STREET AND ALL THE OTHER, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THERE IS OVERLAP. 
          IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT EXACTLY BLACK AND WHITE. 
          SEE, WHEN I, WHEN I THINK OF THAT OVERLAP, I THINK OF, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'VE GOT, UH, SOME RECOMMENDED PATHS, PATHS THAT PEOPLE FOLLOW BETWEEN, UH, THE PORT AND THE DOWNTOWN AREA. 
          BUT THEY MAY, THEY MAY NOT MATCH UP . 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO WHAT WE WANT 'EM TO DO, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA GRAVITATE TO WHERE THE TERMINALS ARE, RIGHT? WELL, YEAH. 
          KIND OF WHERE THEY WANNA GO ACROSS WHERE THE TERMINAL IS. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, BUT YOU MAY WANT TO GET EVERYBODY GOING ON A SINGLE PATH AND HAVE THAT PATH. 
          UM, BUT YOU WANNA MAKE SURE IT LINES UP. 
          EVENTUALLY, AT SOME POINT IN TIME IT NEEDS TO COME TO HARBORSIDE AND THEY GO ACROSS HARBORSIDE AND THEY'RE IN THE, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S 23RD STREET OR WHAT, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S JUST GOTTA ALL MATCH UP. 
          HEY TREY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          UM, IN YOUR MIND, WHAT'S THE SOLUTION FOR YOUR PARTNER? SIM SIMPLIFIES DOWNTOWN PARKING MORE PARKING MORE PLACES TO PARK. 
          MORE PLACES TO PARK. 
          I ULTIMATELY, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS VERTICAL BUILDING ON A ROUTE THAT CAN CIRCULATE PEOPLE AFTER THEY LEAVE THEIR CARS. 
          MATTER OF FACT, THAT LOT NEXT DOOR WOULD BE PERFECT. 
          WHICH ONE? OH YEAH. 
          LIKE RIGHT THERE. 
          BECAUSE IT'S ON THE TROLLEY ROUTE, RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, WE COULD DO A WHOLE THING ABOUT THAT AND GET OUTTA YOUR CAR AND WE'LL TAKE YOU ANYWHERE YOU WANT TO GO. 
          YEAH, THAT'S YEAH. 
          PLACE TO PARK. 
          BUT THEN A WAY TO GET FROM HERE TO THERE. 
          UHHUH THE SATELLITE PARKING. 
          YEAH. 
          'CAUSE WE'RE NOT, I CAN'T DO ANY MORE STREET PARKING. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S NO MORE STREETS AVAILABLE TO PARK ON. 
          RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, I'M PRETTY BULKED UP ON ALL THAT STUFF. 
          SO IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE, AND WE HAVE FOUND, EVEN WITH, AND I WAS HAVING A DISCUSSION TODAY AT LUNCH ABOUT THE FO BANK PARKING BUILDING. 
          YEAH. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IT'S EMPTY BECAUSE EMPTY PEOPLE DON'T, YOU HAVE TO PARK AND WALK AND PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO DO THAT. 
          BUT IF THEY HAD A RELIABLE THAT'S RIGHT. 
          SOMETHING THEY COULD COUNT ON. 
          THEY KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE, THERE'S, WE COULD MAYBE, MAYBE GET THEIR CARS TO THE GARAGES OR TO THE SATELLITE SATELLITE IF WE HAD THAT, THAT, AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE, AND WHICH CAN'T BE DONE, OF COURSE. 
          A LOT OF EDUCATIONAL ISSUES. 
          AND MONEY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND MONEY. 
          EXACTLY. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. 
          YOU GOT A LOT, A LOT OF COMMUNICATION ISSUES HERE, BUNCH. 
          RIGHT. 
          TELLING ME IF YOU HAD, IF YOU HAD, YOU KNOW, A COORDINATED COMMUNICATION PLAN, I THINK THAT YOU, YOU SAW A LOT OF THESE ISSUES BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST DON'T KNOW RIGHT. 
          HERE. 
          IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN, YOU DON'T KNOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          WELL, YOU KNOW THAT ROGER, I'VE ALWAYS, ONE OF MY ISSUES, 'CAUSE AS, YOU KNOW, I, I DEAL WITH SOME OF THE PRIVATE PEOPLE AND ALL THAT STUFF, THE POT LOTS AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING IS THE, IS THE POINT OF CONTACT. 
          FIRST IT'S TO BUY YOUR TICKET AT THE CRUISE. 
          AND THE SECOND IS GETTING YOUR PARKING WHERE 
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YOU HAVE CONTACT WITH ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA SHOW UP. 
          YOU KNOW? SO THE, THE, AND I'M SORRY, THE EDUCATIONAL PART OF THAT. 
          YOU'VE ALREADY GOT THE PORTAL BY WHICH TO DO THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE ALREADY SELLING THEM, YOU'RE ALREADY TALKING TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BRINGING THOSE CARS HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE OPPORTUNITIES TO FACILITATE THE EDUCATION. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THAT'S, YEAH. 
          THAT'S KIND OF WHERE, I THINK THAT'S THE CHA YOU KNOW, THAT'S, 'CAUSE YOU, YOU TALK ABOUT  CRUISE PASSENGERS, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S PART OF VISIT GALVESTON OR PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE MESSAGING. 
          YOU GOT AN AUDIENCE THERE THAT YOU KNOW IS COMING, YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          MESSAGING ON. 
          AND ROGER, YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS ON THE, WORKING WITH THE CRUISE LINES ON THE SHIPS. 
          AND I, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S STARTING, RIGHT? I MEAN THERE, THERE, WE HAVE THAT GOING ON NOW IN THE SHUTTLE SHIPS ON BOARD, HERE'S GALVESTON, HERE'S WHAT TO GO DO. 
          AND THEN THE CREWS, YOU KNOW, CAN, LIKE, LIKE THE LEWIS TALKED ABOUT, CAN THE CRUISE COMPANIES SELL SOMETHING? WELL, YOU KNOW, STAY IN GALVESTON. 
          YOU'VE GOT THREE DAYS IN GALVESTON OR FOUR DAYS IN GALVESTON. 
          HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN GO DO. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S LOTS THEY'RE STARTING DO, THEY'RE STARTING TO DO THAT. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          THEY'RE STARTING TO DO, I'VE ONLY DEALT WITH, 'CAUSE I'VE ONLY DEALT WITH THIS FROM THE PARK BOARD SIDE. 
          I HAVEN'T DEALT WITH THIS FROM THE PORT SIDE, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT KIND OF INFORMATIONAL STUFF. 
          BUT IS THAT THE, THE PARK BOARD HAS THE ABILITY TO SHIFT, TO SEND OUT A BUNCH OF INFORMATION TO A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE. 
          YEAH, THEY DO. 
          YOU KNOW, AND THEY'VE GOT, WHICH COULD BE, WE JUST NEED TO WRANGLE ALL OF THAT AT SOME POINT. 
          HIM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          WE NEED TO MAKE, WE NEED TO CHECK THROUGH THE LEGALITIES. 
          BUT OUR JULIO KNOWS FOR EVERY WEEK, HE KNOWS THE HIGHEST, UM, 10 ZIP CODES THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING TO GALVESTON FROM. 
          YEAH. 
          WE KNOW. 
          IT'S NOT JUST THE TOURIST ON THIS DOWNTOWN ISSUE. 
          UH, IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WORK DOWNTOWN. 
          IF WE COULD GET THEM INVESTED IN A SATELLITE PARKING SCHEME, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE'S A LOT BUS TAKING THEM TO WORK AND PICKING 'EM UP AND TAKING 'EM RIGHT BACK TO WORK. 
          WE WOULD, WE WOULD GO DO A, I THINK A, A GOOD SERVICE TO FREEING UP SOME OF THOSE. 
          AND YOU CAN HELP US FACILITATE THAT THROUGH THE WELL, AND THAT'S ALWAYS YEAH. 
          NO, WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, AND THERE IS, AND IT'S A, SORRY, A VERY SMALL HANDFUL OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS DOWNTOWN. 
          THE ONES THAT CAN AFFORD IT DO, DO TRY TO SUBSIDIZE PARKING FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES MM-HMM . 
          AND WHICH I THINK IS WONDERFUL FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT, BUT I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, FROM A, I WOULD RATHER HAVE THE SPACE TO SOMEONE WHO'S NOT WORKING HERE STANDPOINT. 
          DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT IS THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE, SO IT HAS TO BE A SHUTTLE OR IT HAS TO BE A WAY THAT YOU THEN GET THEM SOMEHOW. 
          AND I THINK THAT COULD BE MY ISSUE IS THAT COULD THAT, THAT COULD TURN INTO A, THOSE STREET PARKING SPACES. 
          I MEAN, IF YOU WERE TO PRIORITIZE WHO YOU WANT AT THOSE STREET PARKING SPACES, IT WOULD BE PEOPLE GOING PATRONIZE THE MERCHANTS. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          RIGHT. 
          NOT SOMEBODY WORKING THERE. 
          NOPE. 
          OR LIVING THERE OR NOT. 
          MAYBE NOT EVEN A A YOU KNOW, A LOCAL CAN BE SOMEBODY COMING TO PATRONIZE A MERCHANT, BUT THEY CAN BE DOWN THERE FOR OTHER REASONS. 
          I BET YOU, I BET YOU CLOSE TO 50% OF THE PARKING IS EITHER PEOPLE THAT WORK DOWNTOWN OR LIVE DOWNTOWN. 
          I'M, I'M, I'M NOT SURE, BUT IT'S, IT'S A HIGH, WE WE HAVE PARKING RIGHT HERE FOR REALLY? YEAH. 
          IN THE TRANSIT TERMINAL. 
          YEAH. 
          WE HAVE DESIGNATED AREAS THERE FOR LOCAL PARKING. 
          NOT VERY MANY FOR PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE. 
          NOT ENOUGH. 
          NOT ENOUGH. 
          NO. 
          IT IS NEVER. 
          BUT WE'RE NOT, THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT THIS ONE, CAN WE JUST BUILD THAT ONE ALL THE WAY UP? THE ONE WELL, YOU KNOW, SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO ADD ONTO IT. 
          KNOW. 
          I KNOW. 
          WELL, THE THING, AND I DON'T, AND I, BECAUSE I SEE THIS, I REALLY WANTED TO, UH, END UP WHERE ALL OF THIS AND Y'ALL TWO AND YOUR PLANS AND ALL THAT, THIS COULD BE AN INCREDIBLE DESTINATION. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, REALLY, REALLY COULD BE. 
          I, I'M FOR, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, PARKS BOARD AND LET'S LOOK AT REBRANDING HERE. 
          YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH SOMETHING. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A, HIS HISTORIC DOWNTOWN AND CR AND I WOULDN'T SAY CRUISE SHIP, BUT HISTORIC DOWNTOWN AND SEAFRONT SEAPORT AND PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO AVENUES. 
          REMEMBER WE DID THAT. 
          WE DID. 
          WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT. 
          IT WAS THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN STRAND. 
          SEAPORT, UHHUH, UHHUH. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT USED TO BE AT ONE TIME. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT, BUT IT IT, WELL, I'LL TELL YOU. 
          GOT REALLY TOO LONG TO FILL OUT ALL THOSE FORMS WITH ALL THOSE NAMES. 
          , CAN WE CUT THIS DOWN INTO A LESS AN ACRONYM? BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          I, AND BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, WE CAN DO THIS, BUT IN MY MIND, AND I KNOW I GET IT. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO DO, IN MY MIND, THERE ARE SO MANY KIND OF SEPARATE PARTS OF THIS THAT YES, I GET IT. 
          IT'S AN OVERALL GLOBAL KIND OF THOUGHT PROCESS. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT THE PARKING ISSUE FOR ME, AND I'M JUST DOUBT FOR IF I SPEAK FOR DOWNTOWN, THE PARKING ISSUE FOR ME IS VERY, IT JUST HAPPENS THAT WE'RE ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PORT. 
          YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT DOESN'T, WE DON'T INTERSECT WITH ALL OF THAT BECAUSE FROM A PARKING STANDPOINT, FROM A MOBILITY STANDPOINT, THAT'S DIFFERENT. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT FROM A PARKING STANDPOINT. 
          PARKING STANDPOINT. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE THING IS, THIS STUDY CAN HELP US GATHER THE EMPIRICAL DATA THAT WILL GIVE US THE, THE, THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE CHANGES. 
          LIKE 
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HOW MANY SPACES IN THAT GARAGE ARE OPEN ON EACH GARAGE, AND WHAT TIMES A DAY ARE THEY OPEN? AND IS THERE ANY, WHAT WHAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, FROM A VERY, UH, SIMPLE PERSPECTIVE, WHAT IS OUR CAPACITY AND WHAT IS OUR DEMAND AND WHERE IS OUR DEMAND COMING FROM AND WHERE IS THAT CAPACITY? AND THEN WHAT ARE OUR OPPORTUNITIES? LIKE THAT WALK RIGHT OVER THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. 
          UH, WE JUST NEED SOMEBODY TO TAKE THE TIME TO DO THE ANALYSIS AND PROVIDE US THAT DATA SO WE CAN MAKE GOOD DECISIONS. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT I'M HEARING IS FROM IS GREAT DISCUSSION, BY THE WAY. 
          IT'S REALLY ALL REALLY GOOD STUFF. 
          UM, I GUESS WE'RE HEARING, WE'VE KIND OF TAKEN THE SCOPE THAT WE HAVE, AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME TWEAKS AND INPUT. 
          I DON'T, DAVID TOOK SOME NOTES AND OTHERS, IF THERE'S ANY MORE INPUT WE WANNA MAKE ON THIS PROPOSAL DOCUMENT. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S TAKING THIS AND MAYBE DOING AN RFQ MM-HMM . 
          TO GET KIND OF WHO ARE OUR QUALIFIED PEOPLE OR WHO, WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED, AND THEN KIND OF SELECTING WHO MIGHT BE THOSE TOP THREE AND INTERVIEW THEM AND PICKING ONE AND GO. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I CAN, I CAN UH, UPDATE, UH, UH, THE MAYOR AND CITY STAFF, BRIAN, AND TELL 'EM WHAT WE CAME UP WITH AND GET AND ASK THAT DID OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, COORDIN PURCHASING DEPARTMENT TO DO IT. 
          I WOULD ALSO SAY IT'S NOT, I, I THINK I'VE DONE IT FOR, WITH THE REPORT EVEN, IS YOU COULD, YOU CAN BECOME NON-DISCLOSED AND BE A PART OF THE EVALUATION TEAM WHEN I SAY NON, BUT YOU HAVE TO LIKE SIGN A, A NON-DISCLOSURE STATEMENT. 
          'CAUSE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU NOT DISCLOSE WHEN YOU ARE REVIEWING WHAT YOU GET BACK, WHEN YOU'RE ANALYZING IT. 
          UH, YOU, YOU CAN, UM, PEOPLE LIKE US, SOME OF US MIGHT WANT TO BE ON THE EVALUATION ROOM. 
          AND I GUESS, CAN WE, SO AS FAR AS TO MOVE IT FORWARD, CAN WE GET, IS IT APPROPRIATE BY, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE CITY AND THE PORT, BUT SOMEBODY'S GOTTA TAKE THE LEAD AND YEAH. 
          BUT YOU CAN'T HAVE EIGHT OR NINE PEOPLE WRITING DOCUMENTS. 
          WELL, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          NO, YOU JUST, YOU JUST NEED, WELL, WE GOTTA BE SPEC. 
          SO I THINK CAN I, I PROPOSE THAT ROGER, IF WE COULD GET YOUR, GET ROGER'S STAFF TO TAKE THE LEAD AND WHO WOULD, WHO WOULD THAT BE? WOULD THAT BE, I, I WOULD SAY YOU PUT IN MY, MY OPINION, I PUT TWO PROCUREMENT PEOPLE TOGETHER. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND LET THEM GET THE DE GET THEM, BECAUSE WE DO, THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME. 
          SO THAT, WOULD THEY DO IT EVERY DAY? LAURA. 
          AND WHO WOULD THAT BE? LOGAN? UM, STEPHANIE. 
          STEPHANIE AND WHO? AND MIKE. 
          MIKE . 
          YEAH. 
          LET THEM SIT DOWN AND TALK THROUGH BETWEEN THEM. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THEY, 'CAUSE THEY'RE, THEY DO THIS, THE EXPERTS. 
          DO WE NEED TO FACILITATE THAT? SIT DOWN? OR CAN Y'ALL DO THAT? I DON'T THINK YOU COULD. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN DO IT NOW. 
          . 
          I THINK WE CAN BRING THEM TOGETHER, BUT I JUST, I JUST, YOU KNOW, GET US TO AN ACTION STEP WHERE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT KNOW HOW TO PUT THE DOCUMENTS TOGETHER. 
          AND THEN I GUESS THERE'S SOME TECHNICAL PIECES THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, WE'VE GIVEN INPUT HERE. 
          I KNOW THERE'S, WE'RE ALL SCRIBBLING NOTES AND COMMENTS HERE. 
          UH, YEAH. 
          I MEAN, RICHARD HAD A GOOD POINT ABOUT HOW THE, ONCE THEY DO THEIR WORK YEAH. 
          THEN WHAT IS THE EVALUATION PROCESS LOOK LIKE? AND, AND I GET I GUESS TWO MORE QUESTIONS. 
          ONE QUESTION IS THAT IF YOU GO OUT AND, AND, AND BRING SOMEBODY IN, OTHER THAN, AND I'M JUST SAYING OTHER THAN BA UM, YOU HAVE THE EDUCATION OF EDUCATING THESE PEOPLE ON THE MARKET. 
          I THINK THIS IS WHAT SHEILA BROUGHT UP LAST MEETING IS BA KNOWS THE MARKET, THEY HAVE THE EXPERTISE. 
          AND I'M NOT SURE THE IMPORTANCE, I'M ASKING WHAT THE IMPORTANCE IS OF GOING OUT AND BRINGING ANOTHER PARTY IN OR THREE MORE PARTIES IN. 
          WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY SITTING HERE WHO KNOWS THE PORT, WHO KNOWS THE, THE STREETS HAS BEEN HERE FOR 20 YEARS. 
          WELL, I, AND I MEAN, WHAT, WHAT IS, IS THAT, AND LEMME, I GOT ONE MORE QUESTION. 
          I, I THINK WHAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THIS, IT'S NOT BEEN TALKED ABOUT, IS THAT WE NEED TO ASK THESE PEOPLE, WE NEED TO ASK THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE STRAND THAT ARE WALKING AROUND DOWN THERE, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? ARE YOU HERE TO JUST TO, ARE YOU WAITING FOR THE CRUISE SHIPS? OR ARE YOU HERE JUST TO SHOP? HOW WAS YOUR PARKING EXPERIENCE? I MEAN, JUST LET'S HEAR IT FROM THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SATISFY. 
          EXACTLY. 
          THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A SITUATION FOR THEM THAT MAKES IT SEAMLESS AND SAFE AND ALL OF THAT. 
          I AGREE WITH ALL THOSE THINGS. 
          THEY'RE THE STAKEHOLDERS, BUT YEAH, LET'S FIND OUT THEM. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I, WHAT IS, WHAT IS IT YOU'RE, IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE, BECAUSE I MEAN, I HEAR FROM OTHER PEOPLE THAT THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT SAYING I BELIEVE IT OR NOT, BUT ANYWAY, SO LET'S ASK THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AFFECTED DOING WITH THIS. 
          I KNOW PEOPLE THAT IF I CAN GET FUNDING, WHAT'S THAT? I KNOW PEOPLE THAT DO ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          IF I CAN FUND IT, 
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YOU KNOW, TO PAY FOR, SOMEONE NEEDS TO PAY FOR THIS, I WOULD LOVE THAT INPUT ON MULTIPLE OF OTHER LEVELS THERE. 
          NOT JUST, I MEAN, WE'RE GETTING READY TO DO THAT HERE. 
          I MEAN, AS PART OF THE, UH, THE, THE TEXT DOT HAS HIRED JOHN MARTIN TO UPDATE THE PLANS WE'VE ALREADY DONE BEFORE. 
          AND SO THEY, THEY WANT, THEY, TWO YEARS AGO, TWO, TWO REPORTS AGO, THEY HAD PUT SOMEBODY IN THE TERMINAL WITH, WITH THEIR PAD. 
          YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE CRUISE LINES AND MAKE SURE IT WAS OKAY. 
          AND WE HAD TO GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION BECAUSE IT WAS THEIR CUSTOMER AND THEIR MINDS, THEIR CUSTOMER. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE DID. 
          WE WENT OVER HERE AND THAT'S WHERE WE STARTED FINDING OUT THAT THE PARKS BOARD HAS DONE SOME OF THAT. 
          THAT'S WHERE WE FOUND OUT THAT 35% OF THESE CRUISERS ARE STAYING IN THE HOTELS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          BUT SEE, I WANNA DO THAT. 
          SO I'LL BE, I'LL SHUT UP. 
          I WANT TO GET THE, I WANT TO GET THAT THERE. 
          I WANT TO GET PEOPLE ON THE STRAND ON, I MEAN, I WANT PEOPLE BEING ASKED THAT ARE DOWNTOWN. 
          I'D LIKE THEM TO GO TO POST OFFICE. 
          LIKE TO GO TO ALL THAT. 
          WHO ARE YOU? WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? THAT'S WHAT THIS, THAT'S WHAT THIS PROPOSAL IS GONNA DO. 
          YEAH. 
          I THAT'S WHAT THAT, THAT, WELL, LET ME, YOUR, YOUR TWO QUESTIONS. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          ION ONE OF THEM IS, I THINK THERE'S SO MUCH THAT WE CAN LEARN. 
          I, I DON'T, I DON'T DISAGREE THAT BMA, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE NAME? BA, BA I THINK, I DON'T, I DON'T DISAGREE THAT VA WOULD BE A VERY, VERY QUALIFIED CANDIDATE. 
          AND THEY WILL I'M SURE SUBMIT SOMETHING. 
          BUT THERE ARE OTHERS OUT THERE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, WE JUST, I THINK WE, OH, THERE'S, I THINK IT BENEFITS, I THINK IT BENEFITS US TO TAKE A LOOK AROUND, YOU KNOW, AND SEE WHAT, SEE WHAT CAN WE SEE WHAT WE CAN SEE? I'M NOT, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO TELL WITHIN, WITHIN AN HOUR OF TALKING TO ONE, TO ONE OF THE GROUPS IF THEY'RE, IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA, YEAH. 
          DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T TAKE TOO LONG TO GET THERE. 
          NO. 
          FIGURE THAT OUT. 
          AND THEN THE CITY HAS OTHERS THAT ARE JUST AS FAMILIAR WITH, WITH THE CITY'S WORK BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THE CITY FOR YEARS. 
          TRANSPORTATION, LIKE LEY HO, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. 
          BUT I THINK ON THE, BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, I THINK, UH, DOING THIS RFQ PROCESS REALLY, REALLY LENDS, UH, SOME CREDIBILITY TO THE PROCESS. 
          IF THERE'S ANYBODY OUT THERE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST GIVING IT TO THE PORT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO GO FAST OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO SAY THAT. 
          AND I THINK IF WE, IF WE GO THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS, THEN WE CAN SAY THAT WE'VE DONE THIS EQUITABLY AND BY THE BOOKS AND NOBODY CAN TALK ABOUT IT. 
          AND THEN ON YOUR, ON YOUR SECOND, YOUR SECOND PART, PART, PART, UH, THAT, THAT WILL, I, I WOULD THINK THAT INTERVIEWING PEOPLE ON THE STREETS WOULD BE PART OF THE WELL, AND THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IT'S NOT IN THERE, BUT THAT'S WHY I THREW IT OUT. 
          'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART. 
          WE SHOULD, YEAH. 
          WE SHOULD ASK THESE PEOPLE. 
          WE NEED TO IDENTIFY THEIR ISSUES. 
          YEAH. 
          UNDER, UNDER STAKEHOLDERS. 
          WE NEED TO IDENTIFY THOSE ARE KEY STAKEHOLDERS. 
          THE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T DRINKING ON STREET . 
          I'M NOT ON THE COMMITTEE, BUT CAN I HAVE TWO AS WELL? UM, TWO, UM, FOR BOB, YES. 
          IF IN FACT THIS IS A $300,000 STUDY, HOW DO WE RIGHT NOW START TO GET THE CITY ON BOARD TO PAY ONE 50? MM-HMM . 
          WE CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THE RQS AND ALL THAT. 
          BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          IT'S GONNA TAKE A LONG TIME. 
          SO HOW DO WE DO THAT? NOW? WE TALKED ABOUT IT REAL BRIEFLY AT OUR LAST WORKSHOP. 
          UH, AND I ASKED A QUESTION, CAN I PAY FOR THIS? AND THEY SAID, YEAH, IT'S SOMETHING NOT ELIGIBLE. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE MY GUESS. 
          BUT I, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          WE NEED TO DO MORE PREPARATION. 
          IT, IT'S, UH, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO, TO DISCUSS AT OUR NIGHT COUNCIL. 
          I, I, I THINK THE MAYOR'S THERE TOO. 
          WELL, AND WE IS, WE MAY HAVE, UM, WE MAY STILL HAVE A MEETING WITH Y'ALL. 
          IT'S STILL ON THE BOOKS FOR JANUARY. 
          MAYBE WE HAVE ONE HOUR AND SIT DOWN AND HASH THIS OUT. 
          THAT'S A GOOD, GOOD SUGGESTION. 
          UM, SECOND THING, I THINK TONY, I THINK TONY WAS GETTING WITH, UM, CITY ATTORNEY TO KIND OF HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ABOUT HOT FUNDS. 
          CAN WE USE, I THINK THE FEELING IS THAT WE PROBABLY CAN, BUT IT'S LIKE, SHEILA, WE NEED TO DO THESE THINGS IN PARALLEL, RIGHT? NOT IN SERIES. 
          WE NEED TO BE WORKING THAT PAYMENT ISSUE. 
          'CAUSE THIS IS, YEAH, THIS IS GONNA BE MORE THAN $50,000. 
          WELL, IT'S LIKE, IT DEPENDS ON WHO YOU TALK TO, RIGHT? WELL, RIGHT NOW, TRUE. 
          SOMEBODY SAID, NO, YOU CAN'T DO, OR SOMEBODY SAID, SO WE NEED, WE NEED TO SHEILA'S POINT, WE NEED TO FLESH THAT OUT AND WE NEED TO BE WORKING ON THAT NOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          SECOND THING, AND I THINK IT'S A, A GREAT IDEA TO DO MAN ON THE STREET INTERVIEWS, BUT THOSE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY DECIDED TO PARK AND COME DOWNTOWN. 
          SO THAT BEHAVIOR HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED. 
          SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US WORK WITH A COUPLE OF THE CRUISE LINES ON THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BIG RESERVATIONS. 
          WHAT, WHAT WOULD CAUSE YOU TO COME EARLY? WHAT WOULD GALVESTON NEED TO OFFER YOU TO COME EARLY TO STAY IN A HOTEL, TO DO THE RESTAURANTS, YOU KNOW, FIND OUT THE BEHAVIOR BEFORE THE DECISION'S ALREADY MADE AND 
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THEY'RE ON THE STREET. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I LIKE THAT, UH, IDEA THAT, I THINK IT WAS TOM OR SOME ONE OF THOSE GUYS CAME UP WITH TOM WAS THE, THAT OFFERED A LITTLE BREAK ON PARKING. 
          IF AFTER YOUR CREW STAYED LONGER OR YOU GOT HERE EARLY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT BECAUSE PEOPLE THINK THEY'RE GETTING A BREAK ON PARKING KEYS, WELL, THEY'LL JUMP AT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I GUESS WE'RE, WE'RE COMING TO, YOU KNOW, THE RFQ WE'RE COMING TO, UM, REPORT AND STEPHANIE AND PERSON, PERSON FROM THE CITY TO GET TOGETHER TO PUT THAT, TAKE WHAT WE'VE GOT. 
          I GUESS THERE'S INPUT FROM LEWIS AND THERE'S INPUT FROM THE PROPOSAL. 
          UH, AND THEN WHATEVER COMMENTS MIGHT DAVID MIGHT HAVE OR BOB MIGHT HAVE, OR ANY OF US TO EVERYTHING WE'VE ALREADY SENT, YOU KNOW, TO ME IN MY MIND IS STUFF YEAH. 
          SO LET THOSE GUYS GENERATE AN RFQ THAT WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT AND MAKE ANY OTHER FURTHER. 
          BUT I, I THINK GETTING THOSE GUYS TOGETHER TO TASK THEM TOGETHER. 
          WELL, I THINK PROBABLY WE, YOU KNOW, ONE ENGINEER FROM THE CITY AND ONE ENGINEER. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I AGREE. 
          MIGHT NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, TECHNICAL STAND. 
          YEAH. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JEFFREY OR JULIO. 
          WELL, IT MAY BE WHO. 
          YEAH, JULIO. 
          I MIGHT, I GUESS. 
          YEAH, I'LL, BUT I, I BELIEVE IT TO ROGER, BUT I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. 
          A PURCHASING PERSON AND ENGINEER FROM EACH, EACH ENTITY TO WORK THIS TOGETHER TO PUT, BECAUSE THEY DON'T, I MEAN, THEY DO THIS FOR TECHNIC JUST TECHNICAL ASPECTS THAT WE WANT. 
          SO LET THEM PUT TOGETHER AN RFQ THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, WE COULD, BUT GIVE US SOMETHING TO LOOK AT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN, BECAUSE I, I'M JUST, AGAIN, THERE IS A, I WANT TO KEEP THIS PROCESS MOVING ALONG SO I, I CAN, UH, DRAFT AN EMAIL TO BRIAN, UH, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE MAYOR AND COPY YOU GUYS AND TELL HIM WHAT WE, WHAT WE DETERMINE AND, UH, WHAT OUR SUGGESTION IS, YOU KNOW, TO GET THIS RFP WITH A JOINT PURCHASING AND ENGINEERING EFFORT AND, UH, START FROM THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          IF THAT WORKS. 
          IS THAT OKAY? YEAH, SOUNDS GOOD. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SOUNDS GOOD. 
          SO I THINK COULD, SO I GUESS, WHEN DO WE THINK WE COULD HAVE AN RFQ PUT TOGETHER ON, I MEAN, WHAT'S OUR KIND OF TARGET? UH, MAYBE TOMORROW IT GET DONE BY TOMORROW, ? I DON'T THINK SO. 
          FIRST THING IN THE MORNING? NO, I MEAN, I THINK WE JUST TAKE, YOU KNOW, AND WE'LL JUST HAVE TO GET THEM TOGETHER AND LET OKAY. 
          LET THEM KIND OF DO YEAH. 
          BECAUSE THIS IS YEAR END AND ALL THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          I KNOW, I KNOW. 
          WE'RE RUNNING INTO THE HOLIDAYS. 
          I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH THEM TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE'RE DOING. 
          WHICH THAT'S GREAT. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S, SO YEAH. 
          GET 'EM KIND OF, I THINK LIKE BOB, UH, BOB'S DOING THERE. 
          KIND OF LET THESE GUYS KNOW WHAT'S, AND THEY, THEY KNOW, I MEAN, THEY'VE HEARD OF THESE DISCUSSION, BUT GET THEM KIND OF PREPPED THAT THIS IS GONNA BE UP TO SPEED UP SPEED ON HERE IT IS. 
          AND WE'RE EXPECTING YOU'RE NOT GET, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET MUCH PARTICIPATION UNTIL NEXT YEAR. 
          IT IS REALLY NEXT YEAR. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I KIND OF WANTED TO HAVE THIS MEETING TODAY. 
          SO AT LEAST WE COULD GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY. 
          AND THEN WE, WE'VE GOT STUFF WE CAN GET TO THEM. 
          UH, WE CAN TO THEM STARTING THE FIRST OF THE YEAR TO GET GOING, RUNNING, START. 
          OKAY. 
          WITH THAT, I'M GONNA DECLARE WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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